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The Leafs were in a position to possibly do that though. All comes back to being more ruthless with what they need to do to win, better asset management and better pro scouting.

Exactly how I feel. We need better depth. We were eaten alive by Florida's third line in Marchand, not their first two lines in the same way. The step back regular season stuff is beyond irrelevant. Florida finished third in the division this year and steamrolled everyone.

The strawmaning is real right now. Sheesh.

People are angry because he doesn't want to be here and wants to squeeze every cent and his camp has turned fans against him. There's blame to go around, and management has been pretty bad post drafting Matthews but it's not surprising that it's him right now. People were calling for Dubas and...

True. This is all his camp. If he continues to not score in the playoffs he'll go down as a guy who maximized his contracts while not delivering when it counts. Crazy to think that even taking $1-2M lower than his ask would keep him amongst the top paid players in the league while avoiding the...

On one hand it really is all about money. Man his agent really is going to screw his reputation in perpetuity.

This is a very Leafian game and probable outcome. Wow. What an annoying season.

He's gotta be able to stay on his skates more regularly.

Think of how much worse we'll be if we don't run it back! We might not make it past the first or second round next year... Oh wait.

And who's to say MAGA candidates won't be the norm? DJT may be a unique grifter but if the people want MAGA they will get it.

They had their chance to LTIR Matthews into the post-season and they didn't. Lots of people here were saying we should pull a Vegas a la Mark Stone or a Lightning a la Kucherov. The Leafs had their chance and they chose not to exercise it.

Your counterpoint is basically we don't know what the alternative would look like, which isn't much of a position. So much of team discussions does involve hypotheticals and that's just the way it is, and GMs are paid to deal with the probable outcomes of hypotheticals. At the end of the day...

Both can be true - Matthews needs to pot them but Marner needs to also be better. How many great passes did Matthews get on his stick from Marner this last playoff run? Likewise how many times has Matthews missed the net? Matthews and Marner wanted to play together so I'm really not going to put...

I really don't care to re-litigate these debates over and over when they didn't get it done. The fact is they needed to score more goals when they needed it and give up fewer goals when they needed it and they didn't do it and to me that comes down partially to depth in general, especially when...

Doesn't that highlight one of the points? One of them goes down and you can't beat Montreal? Because....drum roll.... you have no forward depth?

By your definition there's no way of knowing until it plays out, which makes sense to a degree, but we are dealing with a lot of unknowns and that's part of the job, but we did have some useful data points. We don't need to re-run the experiment 9 times if we ran it 5 times and wilted almost...

The whole hindsight thing is really annoying when a large number of us had concerns over a top heavy, capped out team team since they lost to Columbus, let alone the Canadiens.

Brown and Hyman were different levels of mismanagement. I wasn't sad to see Bunting go.

Thought the standard of officiating was brutal tonight with that many calls. Let them play... except arbitrarily Game 3.

And they didn't adjust.