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If we keep this pick, I guarantee we finish dead last next season. This is the way.

You can still recoup via trades, tank be dammed. I agree that the first is not happening.

You've got to play hard to draw penalties.

We were so close just last year, and the team is very similar to last year's team, except now we suck and everyone's fired? I think we're overreacting a bit. Woll and Stolarz have only been great and healthy as a duo, and just recently, they have both been rostered at the same time. If we have a...

That's kind of a crazy comment. League's best save percentage last season.

Stolarz swagger is gone. I don’t know WTF can be done. We were close just last year. Tanev is clearly our MVP, we suck without him.

Tossing grenades since 2013!

It’s over!

I watch a fair bit, but I don't really care if I miss it and never rewatch (start over/PVR) anymore. I am just interested in winning playoff games, that's it. I am a hockey fan, and if the Leafs are sucking, I will switch to a better game.

Sucking with no draft picks and prospects is a problem. A decision has to be made to recoup what you can. There is no path to contend with the assets on hand. Doing nothing to hope to accomplish what?

The cap hit our unproven stars demanded buried any ability to add anything competent. The core 4 cap hit was unmanageable.

I don't get the Trev hate. Trev tried to trade Marner. Who knows, maybe we would have been cheering (or booing) Marner on Sunday vs. Colorado with the Stanley Cup banner hanging from the rafters had that trade happened. Did you see Rantanen's game 7 VS Colorado VS Marner's game 7 snot-fueled...

I have to remind myself how bad the Leafs were prior to the core 4 showing up. It's been a decent run, and I don't want it to end now without a cup. Post Kessel trade, finishing 2nd last with no first round pick for the next two drafts was a pretty horrendous position to be in. If we do enter...

Is the whip back? Not so sure anymore. He had some open looks lately, and the shots he took had nothing on them.

Another no-show, fans have to start no-showing. Berube had over 250 career fights. How can he stomach watching this team? The breakout is atrocious, and then they flip it in and no one can get it... ever.

Left their guts on the ice and results are not even comparable except where it counts the most the cup.

Hatty of good news.

Oilers have gotten value from the stars, Leafs didn't.

We're beating a deadhorse but Matthews is equally to blame. Led the team in playoff scoring... I cannot believe anyone who watched him over his time in the playoffs with the Leafs would say that was good enough. It's ridiculous.

Read every OT loss thread, people are always pissed at whoever's on the ice. Domi's lost a few in OT but scored in OT the other night. No one was complaining that night about him playing in OT. Cowan has an OT goal this season.