Leafs @ Lightning - Dec. 13, 7:30 pm EST - Sportsnet Ontario

[Kin]

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21-9-1, 43 Points | 24-7-1, 49 Points

Projected Lines

Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen Brown-Tavares-Marner Marleau-Kadri-Nylander Lindholm-Gauthier-Enni Rielly-Hainsey Gardiner-Zaitsev Dermott-Ozhiganov Andersen ​

Palat-Stamkos-Gourde Johnson-Point-Kucherov Killorn-Cirelli-Miller Joseph-Paquette-Callahan Hedman-Girardi McDonagh-Cerak Coburn-Sergachev Vasilevskiy​

Scratches

Justin Holl Martin Marincin ​

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Game Notes

TOR
?Seems pretty likely that Andersen will be starting
?The second game of Hyman's suspension, they did ok without him in Carolina so the vast, evil tentacles of Jeremy Jacobs may have backfired
?Christmas Fun Fact: The eruption of Indonesia's Mount Tambora in 1815 led to what some historians call ?The Year without Summer? in 1816. This unusally large volcanic eruption led to a disruption of the global climate, resulting in unusually cold temperatures in North America and parts of Europe. What does this have to do with Christmas? Charles Dickens was 4 years old in 1816 and so it may be the first Christmas he remembered. That, some historians think, is why when he wrote about Christmas he depicted London as being very snowy at this time of year when in reality White Christmases in London are fairly rare. Because Dickens' work was foundational for so much of modern Christmas myth, the idealized ?White Christmas? may all be the result of a single volcanic eruption in the Pacific.

TB
?The Lightning recently activated Andrei Vasilevskiy from the IR after four weeks out with a broken foot(I feel ya, Andrei). Louis Domingue has had a good record in his absence(14-4) but with weak peripheral stats(2.95, 905%). I'm guessing we see Vasilevskiy make his return.
?Brayden Point is off to a big start. With 21 goals and 41 points he ranks 2nd and 5th in the league in those respective categories
?After 9 straight seasons with a sub-50 CF%, Dan Girardi is currently at 52.6. Still not good relative to the rest of his first place team but he's hasn't been the drag on the first pairing you might have thought

Injuries

?GDT Thread Author - Lower Body - IR​

?Anton Stralman - Lower Body - Injured Reserve​

Stream Options

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[herman]

?Christmas Fun Fact: The eruption of Indonesia's Mount Tambora in 1815 led to what some historians call ?The Year without Summer? in 1816. This unusually large volcanic eruption led to a disruption of the global climate, resulting in unusually cold temperatures in North America and parts of Europe. What does this have to do with Christmas? Charles Dickens was 4 years old in 1816 and so it may be the first Christmas he remembered. That, some historians think, is why when he wrote about Christmas he depicted London as being very snowy at this time of year when in reality White Christmases in London are fairly rare. Because Dickens' work was foundational for so much of modern Christmas myth, the idealized ?White Christmas? may all be the result of a single volcanic eruption in the Pacific.

That is so colonial, appropriating the work of that eastern/southern hemisphere volcano to idealize whiteness.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Sportsnet telecasts suck....just saying.

 

[ZBBM]

?Christmas Fun Fact: The eruption of Indonesia's Mount Tambora in 1815 led to what some historians call ?The Year without Summer? in 1816. This unusually large volcanic eruption led to a disruption of the global climate, resulting in unusually cold temperatures in North America and parts of Europe. What does this have to do with Christmas? Charles Dickens was 4 years old in 1816 and so it may be the first Christmas he remembered. That, some historians think, is why when he wrote about Christmas he depicted London as being very snowy at this time of year when in reality White Christmases in London are fairly rare. Because Dickens' work was foundational for so much of modern Christmas myth, the idealized ?White Christmas? may all be the result of a single volcanic eruption in the Pacific.

That is so colonial, appropriating the work of that eastern/southern hemisphere volcano to idealize whiteness.

That's deserving of a golf clap.

Where I live we get a white Christmas every year without fail.

 

[Kin]

?Christmas Fun Fact: The eruption of Indonesia's Mount Tambora in 1815 led to what some historians call ?The Year without Summer? in 1816. This unusually large volcanic eruption led to a disruption of the global climate, resulting in unusually cold temperatures in North America and parts of Europe. What does this have to do with Christmas? Charles Dickens was 4 years old in 1816 and so it may be the first Christmas he remembered. That, some historians think, is why when he wrote about Christmas he depicted London as being very snowy at this time of year when in reality White Christmases in London are fairly rare. Because Dickens' work was foundational for so much of modern Christmas myth, the idealized ?White Christmas? may all be the result of a single volcanic eruption in the Pacific.

That is so colonial, appropriating the work of that eastern/southern hemisphere volcano to idealize whiteness.

If only Irving Berlin had thought to write he was dreaming of a multi-racial Christmas.

 

[Kin]

Sportsnet telecasts suck....just saying.

I am sorry but for the record, I'm just writing GDT's for a week. As of yet nobody has put me in charge of deciding which network airs the games.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

GDT Thread Author - Lower Body - IR

 

[L K]

Sportsnet telecasts suck....just saying.

I am sorry but for the record, I'm just writing GDT's for a week. As of yet nobody has put me in charge of deciding which network airs the games.

Get Dubas on the phone to just pay CtB his god damn money.  Cap be damned.  Nik we are trading you to Carolina.  Haven't decided which one yet.

 

[Kin]

Get Dubas on the phone to just pay CtB his god damn money.  Cap be damned.  Nik we are trading you to Carolina.  Haven't decided which one yet.

Well, I'm not thrilled with this development but the nice thing about writing Hurricanes GDT threads is rather than posting them to the internet I'll just drive to the houses of all 12 fans and read it to them.

 

[Kin]

So here's a discussion subject I thought about...of all the teams that have come into the league with the so called Southern Strategy, is Tampa the biggest overall success story? The model franchise? Carolina, Phoenix and Florida are still messes, Nashville and San Jose haven't won anything and Anaheim and Dallas both feel, I don't know, sort of inconsequential.

 

[herman]

So here's a discussion subject I thought about...of all the teams that have come into the league with the so called Southern Strategy, is Tampa the biggest overall success story? The model franchise? Carolina, Phoenix and Florida are still messes, Nashville and San Jose haven't won anything and Anaheim and Dallas both feel, I don't know, sort of inconsequential.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/lightning-hold-no-grudge-towards-john-tavares-choosing-maple-leafs/

They just seem to be very well run (now).

 

[Hobbes]

So here's a discussion subject I thought about...of all the teams that have come into the league with the so called Southern Strategy, is Tampa the biggest overall success story? The model franchise? Carolina, Phoenix and Florida are still messes, Nashville and San Jose haven't won anything and Anaheim and Dallas both feel, I don't know, sort of inconsequential.

I know they've been a lunch-bag let-down in the post season but it's pretty hard not to see the Sharks as being pretty darn successful. Since the '04-05 lockout they've only missed the post-season once, had a long stretch of years where they finished either #1 or #2 in the conference, have been to a cup final and a few conference finals. Overall they're really had more success than Tampa, barring the Cup the Bolts never really should have won.

EDIT: Tampa is currently the better team and has been for the last few years, but for a 10 year stretch San Jose could easily have won it just about every single year.

 

[Kin]

I know they've been a lunch-bag let-down in the post season but it's pretty hard not to see the Sharks as being pretty darn successful. Since the '04-05 lockout they've only missed the post-season once, had a long stretch of years where they finished either #1 or #2 in the conference, have been to a cup final and a few conference finals. Overall they're really had more success than Tampa, barring the Cup the Bolts never really should have won.

EDIT: Tampa is currently the better team and has been for the last few years, but for a 10 year stretch San Jose could easily have won it just about every single year.

Yeah, you're right in a sense. For me it's either Tampa or San Jose for sure. I suppose I'm inclined towards Tampa for the Cup but also because it feels like the boom and bust thing they do is more likely to result in cups. I guess I see them as being better run to a degree. Forbes has San Jose as the more valuable franchise which I guess is something but Tampa has the better attendance these days.

Interestingly of all of these teams Forbes rates Vegas as the most valuable, then Dallas, San Jose, Anaheim and then Tampa.

 

[Redleaf]

Hard to make any precise predictions with tonights games. I just hope it stays close until 3/4 of the way through the 3rd, when Nylander pops in the winner. Its either that or a blow out victory for Tampa  :-X

 

[Highlander]

Hard to make any precise predictions with tonights games. I just hope it stays close until 3/4 of the way through the 3rd, when Nylander pops in the winner. Its either that or a blow out victory for Tampa  :-X

I second that motion.  Nylander win this game!

 

[Hobbes]

I know they've been a lunch-bag let-down in the post season but it's pretty hard not to see the Sharks as being pretty darn successful. Since the '04-05 lockout they've only missed the post-season once, had a long stretch of years where they finished either #1 or #2 in the conference, have been to a cup final and a few conference finals. Overall they're really had more success than Tampa, barring the Cup the Bolts never really should have won.

EDIT: Tampa is currently the better team and has been for the last few years, but for a 10 year stretch San Jose could easily have won it just about every single year.

Yeah, you're right in a sense. For me it's either Tampa or San Jose for sure. I suppose I'm inclined towards Tampa for the Cup but also because it feels like the boom and bust thing they do is more likely to result in cups. I guess I see them as being better run to a degree. Forbes has San Jose as the more valuable franchise which I guess is something but Tampa has the better attendance these days.

Interestingly of all of these teams Forbes rates Vegas as the most valuable, then Dallas, San Jose, Anaheim and then Tampa.

I suppose it depends on what criteria one uses for "success."

San Jose had a very long, sustained run of strong cup-contending teams that for whatever reason never managed to push it over the top. The Shark Tank is full or almost full every single night of the season and has been for the better part of the last decade. The fans seem more or less on board with a short term lull now that the core of those teams is now old or gone (Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski, Vlassic). Loosely speaking, this is the Shannaplan vision of how to win...give yourself a nice long window with quality players and hope they can win a cup or two.

Tampa went 9 of their first 10 years of existence without even making the playoffs, then suddenly finished first in the conference with young/rookie LeCavalier, St Louis, Richards, etc and then promptly won the cup over the Flames in that wacky year right before the lock-out. They were okay, but there were at least 3 or 4 teams out of the east that could have beaten them but blew their brains out against one another while Tampa breezed through very weak competition. It was a good team but not really a great one and probably the weakest one to win a cup in the last 50 years. In the 13 years since they lockout they've missed the post-season half a dozen times, lost a cup final and three conference finals. I suppose in a way that makes them a slightly more "successful" team in terms of how deep they've gone but in their off years they've had some pretty crappy teams.

I know that their ownership hasn't been nearly as stable and I guess that has shown at the gate, but as you say they've been getting great attendance these past few years so you have to consider that a "win".

I think it would be fair to call it a saw-off...they've both probably lived up to Bettman's hopes for those franchises. Even the Ducks haven't been all bad.

 

[Highlander]

why is the frikken game starting at 7:30.. Let go before the Valium kicks in!

 

[Zee]

Sportsnet talking about offer sheets to Matthews and Marner and why wouldn't they?

 

[Highlander]

Sportsnet talking about offer sheets to Matthews and Marner and why wouldn't they?

Offer sheets will got the way of the Dodo or the rest of the planet in time. Its called dirty pool and none of the GM's want to throw out the Geneva Convention of Hockey rules.  The price is just too high in almost all cases.

 

[Kin]

It was a good team but not really a great one and probably the weakest one to win a cup in the last 50 years.

Oof, I don't know about that. I think I take them over the 05-06 Hurricanes, the 94-95 Devils and maybe one of the Kings teams.