Leafs @ Wild - Dec. 3rd, 8:00pm - TSN4. TSN 1050

[CarltonTheBear]

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8-12-5, 21 points | 12-7-4, 28 points

Projected Lines

JVR-Kadri-Komarov Matthias-Bozak-Parenteau Winnik-Spaling-Grabner Holland-Froese-Boyes Gardiner-Phaneuf Hunwick-Rielly Marincin-Polak Reimer ​

Parise-Granlund-Pominville Zucker-Koivu-Niederreiter Vanek-Coyle-Fontaine Porter-Haula-Carter Suter-Brodin Scandella-Spurgeon Prosser-Dumba Dubnyk​

Scratches

Richard Clune Frank Corrado   Jonathan Bernier ​

Nicklas Backstrom Mike Reilly​

Game Notes

TOR
?Reimer is expected to start for the Leafs

MIN
?Devan Dubnyk will likely start for the Wild
?Ryan Suter leads the Wild in points with 21 in 23 games. Koivu and Vanek aren't far behind with 20 and 19 respectively
?Dubnyk has unsurprisingly fell back to Earth, posting a respectable .914 Sv% so far this season
Injuries

?Stephane Robidas - Old - Out indefinitely ?Joffrye Lupul - Lower Body - Injured Reserve​

?Zac Dalpe - Hip - Injured Reserve ?Tyler Graovac - Groin - Injured Reserve​

Stream Options

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http://vaughnlive.tv/leafstreamer
http://gofirstrow.eu/sport/ice-hockey.html
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[Kin]

?Zac Dalpe - Hip - Injured Reserve
?Tyler Graovac - Groin - Injured Reserve

I'm not convinced that either of these guys are real. I'm pretty sure Eastside Hockey Manager just randomly generated some hockey player-ish names.

 

[ZBBM]

I haven't kept up with the Wild, but their second and third D pairings look like quite a dropoff after Suter/Brodin.

 

[Frank E]

Are we going to talk about Kadri?  1 point in the last 5 games, and he's running out of time to turn the season around for himself.

 

[Kin]

Are we going to talk about Kadri?  1 point in the last 5 games, and he's running out of time to turn the season around for himself.

Sure. I'll start the conversation.

I really like how Kadri is putting up relatively good possession numbers while, at the same time, not actually scoring the goals that would mess up the tank.

 

[bustaheims]

I really like how Kadri is putting up relatively good possession numbers while, at the same time, not actually scoring the goals that would mess up the tank.

I also enjoy that Kadri is playing well and getting involved in the play at both ends of the ice, despite not having a lot of success in putting the puck in the net.

 

[herman]

I really like how Kadri is putting up relatively good possession numbers while, at the same time, not actually scoring the goals that would mess up the tank.

I also enjoy that Kadri is playing well and getting involved in the play at both ends of the ice, despite not having a lot of success in putting the puck in the net.

I also enjoy Kadri drawing penalties for UFA tradebait like Parenteau, etc. to capitalize and increase their trade values.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Sure. I'll start the conversation.

I really like how Kadri is putting up relatively good possession numbers while, at the same time, not actually scoring the goals that would mess up the tank.

He's also keeping the price of his next contract down. Pretty big sacrifice from the guy.

 

[Kin]

I really like how Kadri is putting up relatively good possession numbers while, at the same time, not actually scoring the goals that would mess up the tank.

I also enjoy that Kadri is playing well and getting involved in the play at both ends of the ice, despite not having a lot of success in putting the puck in the net.

Nice to see the face-off numbers above 50% too.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Mark Masters @markhmasters
Reimer starts for Leafs... other than that same lineup, Babcock confirms

 

[Bender]

?Zac Dalpe - Hip - Injured Reserve
?Tyler Graovac - Groin - Injured Reserve

I'm not convinced that either of these guys are real. I'm pretty sure Eastside Hockey Manager just randomly generated some hockey player-ish names.

Yesterday I found out that the Leafs once had a player named Dave Smedsmo. Now THAT sounds made up.

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[ZBBM]

All (semi-) humorous points re Kadri well and good but he does need to start scoring or else he does begin to look floppish.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Floppish? How?

 

[Kin]

Aside from the Leafs looking to trade Kadri, why would we care what he looks like as opposed to what his actual value is?

 

[ZBBM]

By not scoring more.

 

[ZBBM]

Aside from the Leafs looking to trade Kadri, why would we care what he looks like as opposed to what his actual value is?

Well, I think most fans care whether a #7 pick who was chosen for his offensive skills pans out or not.

 

[bustaheims]

All (semi-) humorous points re Kadri well and good but he does need to start scoring or else he does begin to look floppish.

Only to people who judge players solely by their point totals. And I think even most of the casual fans have seen enough to not feel like he's a failure. It's not like he's been invisible out there.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

By not scoring more.

How does his lower point totals this year make him look "floppish"?

 

[ZBBM]

You guys are really too much sometimes.  If any of you want to seriously maintain that Kadri is meeting the expectations that came when he was chosen, have at it, but I'm not going to get in a 3-way cage match to hash through whether all his other play makes up for his almost complete lack of goal-scoring so far this year.  Like I said, if he doesn't step it up soon, yes, he begins to look like a big disappointment.  Not a full-on flop, but almost there.

 

[herman]

The point of the analytics movement was to show that raw point totals don't really tell a complete picture due to the incredible amount of luck that determines whether a shot goes in or not. By all counts of controllable metrics (possession, primarily; face-offs), Kadri is doing very well. It's the uncontrollable side of the statsheet that is not as pretty. I'd start worrying only if Kadri wasn't generating chances.