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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED...now what?

Frank E said:
JVR and Bozak moved, Kadri a question mark. What do you do with Lupul?

Keep him. If the rumours of what the expansion draft will look like are true, he'll be an important guy to expose. Bozak too maybe.

Although that said, would Horton count?
 
Nik the Trik said:
Keep him. If the rumours of what the expansion draft will look like are true, he'll be an important guy to expose. Bozak too maybe.

Although that said, would Horton count?

I believe he would, yes - though, it's unlikely he gets picked.

And, honestly, I'm not super concerned about who to expose. The Leafs likely won't have that many players eligible for the draft still under contract after next season. They should have more than enough spots available to protect everyone who needs protecting.
 
Do you guys think the leafs are going to tank again next season?  Or was this a one time deal?  IMO they have a good group of young prospects right now plus they have a ton of picks in the draft (and hopefully one of those picks will be the #1 overall).
 
bustaheims said:
I believe he would, yes - though, it's unlikely he gets picked.

And, honestly, I'm not super concerned about who to expose. The Leafs likely won't have that many players eligible for the draft still under contract after next season. They should have more than enough spots available to protect everyone who needs protecting.

In a strict number of players sense you're right but I'd heard that there'd also be rules requiring teams exposing players that earned a certain % of the team's cap hit in the previous season.
 
Nik the Trik said:
In a strict number of players sense you're right but I'd heard that there'd also be rules requiring teams exposing players that earned a certain % of the team's cap hit in the previous season.

At this point, that's still just rumour/speculation. The number of players/breakdown by position has basically been confirmed.

EDIT: There's also the distinct possibility this entire discussion is moot. Right now, I'd put the odds of there even being an expansion draft at 50/50.
 
Continue moving out players until the stink is completely aired out of the organization. They're close to the teardown I've dreamed of since Sundin retired.

Here's hoping that ownership continues to be hands off, they resist the siren song of Stamkos's agent, they get a bit of luck at the lottery, and we get another top 5 pick at the 2017 draft. 
 
Why JVR?  He was much more responsible this year and is hugely talented, not to mention his size. Unless he shows he's not willing to adapt to Babcock I'd keep him. We do need some quality NHL players. I just don't think he's valuable enough to the league to get a no- brainer trade.
 
lamajama said:
Why JVR?  He was much more responsible this year and is hugely talented, not to mention his size. Unless he shows he's not willing to adapt to Babcock I'd keep him. We do need some quality NHL players. I just don't think he's valuable enough to the league to get a no- brainer trade.

Because realistically the team is going to have to make decisions that aren't no-brainers. They'll need to make lateral moves. Right now the team has Nylander, Marner, Dzierkals, Timashov, Kapanen, Bracco...relatively they're very strong on prospects who might end up on the wing. Where they're weak is in net and on the blueline. The real bullets in their gun, trade wise, were Kessel and Phaneuf and those guys probably didn't bring anyone back who is likely to be a major piece.

There are quite a few teams heavy in D prospects and desperate for offense. They won't offer a no-brainer, can't possibly turn it down trade but they very well might offer a trade that bolsters the Leafs in an area of need.


 
Team targets:

Detroit - Datsyuk is going back to Russia and will leave Detroit with a 7.5M cap hit next year.

Chicago - Have 67 million in salary confirmed and 2.9M in bonuses thanks to Adam Panarin's 70 point season and Roszival playing 50 games.  So 70 million with only 9 forwards, 2 goalies and 6 defensemen.

 
The biggest question mark right now with the expansion draft is that nobody really knows how NMC's will be handled. And that's HUGE. Not just for us but for the entire league. Horton has one. So we could potentially be forced to use a spot protecting him.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
The biggest question mark right now with the expansion draft is that nobody really knows how NMC's will be handled. And that's HUGE. Not just for us but for the entire league. Horton has one. So we could potentially be forced to use a spot protecting him.

Why would we have to protect him?
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
CarltonTheBear said:
The biggest question mark right now with the expansion draft is that nobody really knows how NMC's will be handled. And that's HUGE. Not just for us but for the entire league. Horton has one. So we could potentially be forced to use a spot protecting him.

Why would we have to protect him?

The players may argue that NMC's prevent any kind of movement at all, including move to another team via expansion draft. Therefore a player with a NMC can't be exposed. Although the CBA only explicitly mentions things like waivers and trades. It really depends on how hard the league and players want to fight on this.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
The biggest question mark right now with the expansion draft is that nobody really knows how NMC's will be handled. And that's HUGE. Not just for us but for the entire league. Horton has one. So we could potentially be forced to use a spot protecting him.

That's assuming the Leafs' honoured the NMC as part of the deal. IT may not be enforceable anymore.
 
bustaheims said:
That's assuming the Leafs' honoured the NMC as part of the deal. IT may not be enforceable anymore.

The NMC kicked in at the beginning of his contract, so the Leafs didn't have a choice in honouring it or not. That's only if it hasn't kicked in yet.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
That's assuming the Leafs' honoured the NMC as part of the deal. IT may not be enforceable anymore.

The NMC kicked in at the beginning of his contract, so the Leafs didn't have a choice in honouring it or not. That's only if it hasn't kicked in yet.

That would be my take on it.  It seems like it would be pointless at this point given that he gets paid regardless of what he does and he is really only a paper transaction.
 
L K said:
That would be my take on it.  It seems like it would be pointless at this point given that he gets paid regardless of what he does and he is really only a paper transaction.

Well yeah, that's certainly true. The Leafs could ask him to waive it and yeah he'd probably say "when did Lou become my GM?". So probably not really a problem for the Leafs. There's a lot of teams that it would effect in more serious ways though.
 

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