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The way I looked at the core and maybe I'm harsh is they weren't the answer especially in the playoffs and I couldn't care if all of them went. Management had ample time to see that but kept running it back. Again with these dumb NMC's I would have approached the big 3 or at least 16 and 34 and...

Well they did and good on them.

Well not sure what he could do when the guy won't resign and wouldn't waive. As much as Mitch held the cards in my opinion was horsehit not accepting a trade when you knew damn well you weren't staying.

I don't think he can. Not to improve it. Who do we have that we can trade? There's the untouchables which they won't move and the rest are average at best. Nothing in the A, nothing in junior and draft picks have been given away like Halloween candy.

It wouldn't surprise me if we miss the playoffs and it has nothing to do with the start to the season. Team has gotten worse right from day 1 compared to last year and to be honest I don't think Tre can do much.

6 shots in a period and a half at home. Nothing else to say.

That's one of the things that pisses me off about today's coaches. The stars are pampered. Guys making huge money dogging it some nights and thrown out there on every PP etc meanwhile guys that do work hard get nothing.

Kid should be playing but the way Berube uses him he'll probably see the press box.

They haven't looked very good from day 1 and that with an easy schedule.

I'm watching the Jays. Just keeping up with score and on here. I'm more disappointed in Matthews more than anyone. Couple years ago I said he could be right up there with McD and Mack as far as talent and carrying a team but for being the 2nd highest paid player in the league he's been crap.

4 points for Olivier lol.

They'll probably lose Matthews for nothing just like Mitch. Trading Cowan for Kadri another mistake if it ever happened. We have nothing absolutely nothing anywhere that is a sure fire player, no stars etc, minimal drafts no 1st rounder till 2028. I don't want to sound so pessimistic but it's...

Do you think this team is going anywhere?

But why. He filled in last year. Didn't look great at times but played ok as well. Better than picking up Primeau.

Oh I agree Im 100% in favour of dismantling it now before we give up even more come March thinking they can still win something. Start the rebuild or recoup some draft choices that we desperately lack.

28-13 shots after 2 in our favor and we are down 5-1 wow.

Team sucks but I told you guys Montreal boards said Primeau sucked ass. When we picked him up I said it was a mistake. reimer probably would have been better or just let Hildeby play. At least he's getting some experience. Dumb team.

How long before Woll is back and hopefully plays well? Mind you our defence looks like crap compared to last year and with Tanev gone is really looking dreadful.

Going to be a long night Columbus seems to have our number.

Leafs got away with one there think that was in.