2011-2012 NHL Thread

[Kin]

Marian Hossa, I think, has to be pretty close to being a HOFer. He's at 400 goals, 880 points. If he plays long enough to get those totals to 450 and 1000 then combined with his strong two way play and that winning has sort of followed him around I think he's pretty much a lock.

 

[L K]

Marian Hossa, I think, has to be pretty close to being a HOFer. He's at 400 goals, 880 points. If he plays long enough to get those totals to 450 and 1000 then combined with his strong two way play and that winning has sort of followed him around I think he's pretty much a lock.

I'm being a little presumptive that he'll both A) play in the postseason again and B) Do well there, but he hasn't exactly hurt himself by having 97 career playoff points either.  I can actually buy him as a HOF player.  12 straight 20+ goal seasons, pretty much every single one of them being "on pace for 30+".  Given that he is 33, is it unreasonable to think that he might have another 4 years in him?

 

[bustaheims]

Marian Hossa, I think, has to be pretty close to being a HOFer. He's at 400 goals, 880 points. If he plays long enough to get those totals to 450 and 1000 then combined with his strong two way play and that winning has sort of followed him around I think he's pretty much a lock.

If he plays out the rest of his contract, he possibly cracks 600 and 1300. Pretty much a lock, yeah.

 

[bustaheims]

Lundqvist and Miller with duelling shut outs tonight, going to a shootout in a 0-0 game.

 

[4th Liner]

Lundqvist and Miller with duelling shut outs tonight, going to a shootout in a 0-0 game.

Lundqvist was unreal - I felt bad for Miller. I think he needs a change of scenery, badly.

 

[Deebo]

Did anyone see what happened at the kings/blue jackets game?

2-2 late in the 3rd and the clock stops for what appears to be a full second with 1.8 seconds and the kings score to win with 0.4 on the clock.

 

[Zee]

Did anyone see what happened at the kings/blue jackets game?

2-2 late in the 3rd and the clock stops for what appears to be a full second with 1.8 seconds and the kings score to win with 0.4 on the clock.

It's like they knew it was coming LOL.  Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_HK37lwMy4

 

[bustaheims]

Did anyone see what happened at the kings/blue jackets game?

2-2 late in the 3rd and the clock stops for what appears to be a full second with 1.8 seconds and the kings score to win with 0.4 on the clock.

Yeah. Really a strange situation. Fair to say that the Blue Jackets are not pleased, and Howson raises a fair point in his blog post about it:

http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/blog.htm?id=106

In addition, this result matters to every other team in the Western Conference that is competing with Los Angeles for a playoff spot. We will never know if the Kings would have got the extra point in overtime or shootout, but they may not have. This extra point in the standings could have an enormous impact both competitively and economically. What if the Kings make the playoffs by one point or gain home ice advantage by one point? We could be talking about a team not making the playoffs and missing out on millions of dollars in playoff gates. No one can ever convince me that this result does not matter.

The impact on Columbus is negligible, but, he's absolutely right about what it could potentially mean in a playoff race.

 

[Zee]

Did anyone see what happened at the kings/blue jackets game?

2-2 late in the 3rd and the clock stops for what appears to be a full second with 1.8 seconds and the kings score to win with 0.4 on the clock.

Yeah. Really a strange situation. Fair to say that the Blue Jackets are not pleased, and Howson raises a fair point in his blog post about it:

http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/blog.htm?id=106

In addition, this result matters to every other team in the Western Conference that is competing with Los Angeles for a playoff spot. We will never know if the Kings would have got the extra point in overtime or shootout, but they may not have. This extra point in the standings could have an enormous impact both competitively and economically. What if the Kings make the playoffs by one point or gain home ice advantage by one point? We could be talking about a team not making the playoffs and missing out on millions of dollars in playoff gates. No one can ever convince me that this result does not matter.

The impact on Columbus is negligible, but, he's absolutely right about what it could potentially mean in a playoff race.

Even if the outcome is meaningless, it makes the NHL look like a bush league.  Where else would they allow this to happen?  The NFL?  NBA?  They would have gotten that call right.  With the sub standard officiating we've seen for awhile now, and now this, things are looking bad for the NHL.  They need to address these sorts of things.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

The NBA has certainly been known as a bastion of excellent officiating. 

 

[maplesyrup]

So, if you're a Western conference team owner who misses the playoffs by 2 point or less, do you pursue suing L.A. Arena Company and Anschutz Entertainment Group for lost playoff revenues?

 

[bustaheims]

So, if you're a Western conference team owner who misses the playoffs by 2 point or less, do you pursue suing L.A. Arena Company and Anschutz Entertainment Group for lost playoff revenues?

It would have to be 1 point or less, as the Kings would still have received a single point, regardless of the outcome after regulation. And, the answer is probably no. The lawsuit would cost about as much as the damages you'd be in line to receive.

 

[maplesyrup]

So, if you're a Western conference team owner who misses the playoffs by 2 point or less, do you pursue suing L.A. Arena Company and Anschutz Entertainment Group for lost playoff revenues?

It would have to be 1 point or less, as the Kings would still have received a single point, regardless of the outcome after regulation. And, the answer is probably no. The lawsuit would cost about as much as the damages you'd be in line to receive.

Right... 1 point... I might seek preliminary council.

 

[Kin]

You'd have to establish malicious intent for any sort of lawsuit to be worthwhile. Otherwise it's a pretty easy defense to say that time keeping errors happen pretty frequently and that the responsibility for the game being correctly played still rests with NHL officials.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Dean Lombardi's response:

"Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs -- given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see -- the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 - 10ths of a second before the delay -- this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes That is not an opinion -- that is science -- amazing devise quite frankly."

Duh.

 

[bustaheims]

Dean Lombardi's response:

"Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs -- given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see -- the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 - 10ths of a second before the delay -- this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes That is not an opinion -- that is science -- amazing devise quite frankly."

Duh.

Well, I'm not scientician, but, while that response does feel somewhat fishy, it's certainly a plausible explanation.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Dean Lombardi's response:

"Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs -- given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see -- the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 - 10ths of a second before the delay -- this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes That is not an opinion -- that is science -- amazing devise quite frankly."

Duh.

Well, I'm not scientician, but, while that response does feel somewhat fishy, it's certainly a plausible explanation.

Colin Campbell apparently doesn't buy it.

 

[pnjunction]

Dean Lombardi's response:

"Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs -- given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see -- the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 - 10ths of a second before the delay -- this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes That is not an opinion -- that is science -- amazing devise quite frankly."

Duh.

Well, I'm not scientician, but, while that response does feel somewhat fishy, it's certainly a plausible explanation.

Colin Campbell apparently doesn't buy it.

And he shouldn't it's a pile of dung.

Digital timing circuits use a crystal reference whose frequency is accurate to about 100ppm or less.  That's 0.12s over a 20-minute period.  The clock frequencies produced by a crystal oscillator is typically in the MHz (millions of cycles per second) and this would then be used as a timing reference to update whatever times you want to keep track of.  There's no way the clock should ever run 'too quickly' for an interval, for it to do so would mean either your oscillator sped up for some reason or you made a calculation error when tracking the time.  In the former case (bad crystal) you'd never know (and if you did you would fix your crystal not fudge it) in the latter you would fix your calculation problem not fudge it at some random time.  In any circuit that isn't plain broken these things work properly and your results are as accurate as the crystal oscillator specifications.  It's clear that something has gone very wrong here.

'Rapidity and volume of electrons' is pure garbage.  The 'sophisticated instruments' are no more sophisticated than a Timex watch.  A coulomb is real electrical unit but timing circuits don't measure those, they count the cycles produced by a crystal oscillator which usually outputs a voltage.  Nice try Dean.

 

[Sudafederov]

U.S. shuts 16 sports piracy websites

http://news.yahoo.com/sports-piracy-websites-seized-pre-super-bowl-181636534--nfl.html

According to the government, the 16 websites provided links to give viewers easy access to other sites that hosted pirated telecasts from the National Football League, National Basketball Association, National Hockey League, World Wrestling Entertainment Inc ("WWE") and TNA Impact Wrestling.

The websites are firstrow.tv, firstrowsports.com, firstrowsports.net, firstrowsports.tv, hq-streams.tv, robplay.tv, soccertvlive.net, sports95.com, sports95.net, sports95.org, sportswwe.net, sportswwe.tv, sportswwe.com, xonesports.tv, youwwe.com and youwwe.net.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

U.S. shuts 16 sports piracy websites

http://news.yahoo.com/sports-piracy-websites-seized-pre-super-bowl-181636534--nfl.html

According to the government, the 16 websites provided links to give viewers easy access to other sites that hosted pirated telecasts from the National Football League, National Basketball Association, National Hockey League, World Wrestling Entertainment Inc ("WWE") and TNA Impact Wrestling.

The websites are firstrow.tv, firstrowsports.com, firstrowsports.net, firstrowsports.tv, hq-streams.tv, robplay.tv, soccertvlive.net, sports95.com, sports95.net, sports95.org, sportswwe.net, sportswwe.tv, sportswwe.com, xonesports.tv, youwwe.com and youwwe.net.

Shut them down all you want, if they want they'll find a way back in. Atdhenet is proof of that.