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2011-2012 NHL Thread

I hate no team more than the Sabres, so I can't stand the fact they have clawed their way back all the way into a playoff spot.

I despise Miller, but he's one goalie I wouldn't want to go up against in a playoff round.
 
Potvin29 said:
4th Liner said:
The Caps have to be cursing that the Sabres have a back-to-back with the Leafs in the last 5 games to decide who gets in.
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The sens could be too depending on how their games go.
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Man, if the Leafs could somehow ruin the Senators season by sucking, that might even make me smile...
 
The other night on sportsnet the stand in host for Millard was asked Malkin or Stamkos by John Shannon and the host thought about it for a bit and then picked Malkin and Shannon and Maclean both acted like he was an idiot for choosing Malkin.  Malkin is on pace for 20 more points than Stamkos and only 4 less goals, he's also won a Conn Smythe trophy. i can't stand Maclean, I have no idea how he was ever a GM in the NHL.
 
ontariojames said:
The other night on sportsnet the stand in host for Millard was asked Malkin or Stamkos by John Shannon and the host thought about it for a bit and then picked Malkin and Shannon and Maclean both acted like he was an idiot for choosing Malkin.  Malkin is on pace for 20 more points than Stamkos and only 4 less goals, he's also won a Conn Smythe trophy. i can't stand Maclean, I have no idea how he was ever a GM in the NHL.
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His boyish good looks.

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ontariojames said:
The other night on sportsnet the stand in host for Millard was asked Malkin or Stamkos by John Shannon and the host thought about it for a bit and then picked Malkin and Shannon and Maclean both acted like he was an idiot for choosing Malkin.  Malkin is on pace for 20 more points than Stamkos and only 4 less goals, he's also won a Conn Smythe trophy. i can't stand Maclean, I have no idea how he was ever a GM in the NHL.
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Choosing them for what?
 
Saint Nik said:
ontariojames said:
The other night on sportsnet the stand in host for Millard was asked Malkin or Stamkos by John Shannon and the host thought about it for a bit and then picked Malkin and Shannon and Maclean both acted like he was an idiot for choosing Malkin.  Malkin is on pace for 20 more points than Stamkos and only 4 less goals, he's also won a Conn Smythe trophy. i can't stand Maclean, I have no idea how he was ever a GM in the NHL.
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Choosing them for what?
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All Shannon said was "Malkin or Stamkos," so I'm assuming he was asking who would you rather have on your team right now or who is the better player. Either way, acting like Stamkos is the clear answer is moronic. Picking Stamkos is bad enough.
 
ontariojames said:
Saint Nik said:
ontariojames said:
The other night on sportsnet the stand in host for Millard was asked Malkin or Stamkos by John Shannon and the host thought about it for a bit and then picked Malkin and Shannon and Maclean both acted like he was an idiot for choosing Malkin.  Malkin is on pace for 20 more points than Stamkos and only 4 less goals, he's also won a Conn Smythe trophy. i can't stand Maclean, I have no idea how he was ever a GM in the NHL.
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Choosing them for what?
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All Shannon said was "Malkin or Stamkos," so I'm assuming he was asking who would you rather have on your team right now or who is the better player. Either way, acting like Stamkos is the clear answer is moronic. Picking Stamkos is bad enough.
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Less injury history, maybe?
 
ontariojames said:
All Shannon said was "Malkin or Stamkos," so I'm assuming he was asking who would you rather have on your team right now or who is the better player. Either way, acting like Stamkos is the clear answer is moronic. Picking Stamkos is bad enough.
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I think if the question was who would you rather have right now to build around I'd probably choose Stamkos. He's 4 years younger, the better goal scorer, has a more team-friendly contract and no significant injuries in his past.

Also, there's a slight difference between "on pace for" and "an 82 game pace of". When figuring out what a player is on pace for missed games are a reality.
 
Saint Nik said:
ontariojames said:
All Shannon said was "Malkin or Stamkos," so I'm assuming he was asking who would you rather have on your team right now or who is the better player. Either way, acting like Stamkos is the clear answer is moronic. Picking Stamkos is bad enough.
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I think if the question was who would you rather have right now to build around I'd probably choose Stamkos. He's 4 years younger, the better goal scorer, has a more team-friendly contract and no significant injuries in his past.

Also, there's a slight difference between "on pace for" and "an 82 game pace of". When figuring out what a player is on pace for missed games are a reality.
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I could be wrong but I highly doubt Maclean and Shannon were thinking about salary cap and the fact that Malkin has had a bit of injury trouble in his career when answering the question. It seemed to be a more straight forward who is the better  player right now question, the host mentioned Malkin being a complete player and taking the team on his shoulders and Shannon just said Stamkos is a complete player too, neither of them mentioned anything else.

But aside from that, Stamkos makes less because he's not as good, he's never had a 113 points and won the Art Ross and he's never lead his team to a cup and won the Conn Smythe.  Stamkos has a career high 95 points and is on pace for 96 this year, Malking is showing again this year that when he's at his best he's a 113-120 point player, that's a big difference. Stamkos being a 50 goal scorer doesn't make up for the difference in point production ability, people's idea that goal scoring counts for significantly more than overall points is completely illogical anyways.
 
ontariojames said:
I could be wrong but I highly doubt Maclean and Shannon were thinking about salary cap and the fact that Malkin has had a bit of injury trouble in his career when answering the question. It seemed to be a more straight forward who is the better  player right now question, the host mentioned Malkin being a complete player and taking the team on his shoulders and Shannon just said Stamkos is a complete player too, neither of them mentioned anything else.
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Well, I can't argue too much about a radio segment I didn't hear and that neither of us seem to be entirely sure what it was about. I'm just saying that if the question is building a team around either guy I'd choose Stamkos and pretty easily.

ontariojames said:
But aside from that, Stamkos makes less because he's not as good, he's never had a 113 points and won the Art Ross and he's never lead his team to a cup and won the Conn Smythe.  Stamkos has a career high 95 points and is on pace for 96 this year, Malking is showing again this year that when he's at his best he's a 113-120 point player, that's a big difference. Stamkos being a 50 goal scorer doesn't make up for the difference in point production ability, people's idea that goal scoring counts for significantly more than overall points is completely illogical anyways.
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I don't agree. I think when you have two players of roughly even points then you should give an edge to the better goal scorer. I'm not sure you could put an exact number on it but I think it's fairly significant.

And as to the general point I think that if you factor in their various supporting casts there's probably less of an edge for Malkin then you seem to think.
 
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