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2011 Blue Jays/MLB Thread

Some chatter that along with the keys to the franchise, Epstein will have a blank check... The Cubs could be an interesting team to watch this off-season.
 
Floyd said:
Some chatter that along with the keys to the franchise, Epstein will have a blank check... The Cubs could be an interesting team to watch this off-season.

Hello Albert Pujols/Prince Fielder, Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran, CC Sabathia, and CJ Wilson.
 
Erndog said:
Floyd said:
Some chatter that along with the keys to the franchise, Epstein will have a blank check... The Cubs could be an interesting team to watch this off-season.

Hello Albert Pujols/Prince Fielder

... and more... and along with that I understand there is going to be an enormous amount of money spent on the rejuvenation of Wrigley. Exciting times if you're a Cubs fan. 
 
Floyd said:
Erndog said:
Floyd said:
Some chatter that along with the keys to the franchise, Epstein will have a blank check... The Cubs could be an interesting team to watch this off-season.

Hello Albert Pujols/Prince Fielder

... and more... and along with that I understand there is going to be an enormous amount of money spent on the rejuvenation of Wrigley. Exciting times if you're a Cubs fan.

I added a few more marquee names they will probably go after ;)
 
I wouldn't be so quick to assume Epstein is going to come in and start spending gigantic sums of money. The Cubs are a long ways off and Epstein's a guy who made his reputation via the draft and adding lower tier guys. He got caught up in bidding wars in part because of the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry but I'd actually be pretty surprised if he took over a struggling organization and immediately started surrendering draft picks.
 
Floyd said:
They could also be very active on the trade front, taking on larger contracts and so on.

They could but Epstein's a smart guy. He's going to know he's not taking over a team that is a piece or two away. I'm guessing he'll start building the organization legitimately.
 
Saint Nik said:
Floyd said:
They could also be very active on the trade front, taking on larger contracts and so on.

They could but Epstein's a smart guy. He's going to know he's not taking over a team that is a piece or two away. I'm guessing he'll start building the organization legitimately.

Well sure... I don't think that rumored blank check has an expiry date at this point.
 
Floyd said:
Well sure... I don't think that rumored blank check has an expiry date at this point.

But what I'm saying there is that I actually think this hire makes the Cubs less likely to be players for Pujols/Fielder/whoever.
 
Saint Nik said:
Floyd said:
Well sure... I don't think that rumored blank check has an expiry date at this point.

But what I'm saying there is that I actually think this hire makes the Cubs less likely to be players for Pujols/Fielder/whoever.

I guess that depends on how long Epstein feels these guys can contribute and they fit in to his plan.
 
Floyd said:
I guess that depends on how long Epstein feels these guys can contribute and they fit in to his plan.

And I think that's the red flag on both guys. Pujols is 32 and Fielder has long term questions because of his Pillsbury crafted physique.
 
Saint Nik said:
Floyd said:
I guess that depends on how long Epstein feels these guys can contribute and they fit in to his plan.

And I think that's the red flag on both guys. Pujols is 32 and Fielder has long term questions because of his Pillsbury crafted physique.

You mean his Babe Ruth physique?  ;)
 
Top 10 Worst Contracts in Baseball

Half-way through the article.  Quick summary (the figures are what remains on the contract):

1. Vernon Wells, three years, $63 million
2. A-Rod, six years, $153 million
3. Carl Crawford, six years, $128 million
4. Ryan Howard, five years, $125 million
5. Barry Zito, two years, $46 million
6. John Lackey, three years, $45.75 million
7. Alfonso Soriano, three years, $54 million
8. Adam Dunn, three years, $44 million
9. Jayson Werth, six years, $116 million
10. Mark Teixeira, five years, $117.5 million



Edit: I should add that I think the  Joe Mauer contract should be somewhere in there.  That could very well be the worst contract in a year or two.
 
Saint Nik said:
Floyd said:
You mean his Babe Ruth physique?  ;)

Yes. Well, except Fielder lists out as three inches shorter and 60 lbs heavier than the Bambino.

That, and Ruth wasn't really all that out of shape in comparison to the other players of his day. Very few players were particularly fit back then. Ruth's issues were more due to his lifestyle (which also wasn't that uncommon at the time) than his weight. Fielder, on the other hand . . .
 
Busta Reims said:
That, and Ruth wasn't really all that out of shape in comparison to the other players of his day. Very few players were particularly fit back then. Ruth's issues were more due to his lifestyle (which also wasn't that uncommon at the time) than his weight. Fielder, on the other hand . . .

Well, the thing about Ruth is that a lot of the perception of him has to do, as you say, with the time during which he played. For most of his career, Babe Ruth looked like this:

http://www.gameplanforlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/babe_ruth.jpg

and the accounts from the time fit that. He was described as a big, powerful guy with a round face. He wasn't slow or immobile. He had 5 seasons with 10+ triples including a career high of 16.  The issue with Ruth, as you allude to, is that he had binges of putting on weight and, when he got up in years, he stayed heavy.

That's very different from Fielder who's just a big fat guy who's good at hitting.
 
Floyd said:
You know who the big fat Fielder reminds me of? Fielder. - The other guy who could flat out hit.

That's probably more accurate and that's probably why I'm not all that high on signing Fielder the younger. Prince is 27 years old. Papa Fielder at 27 put up a 3.4 WAR, then a 2.5 the next year, then never even put up a 2.0 again in his career. His last decent year was at the age of 30 and he was out of the league at 34.
 

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