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2012-2013 NHL Thread

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How funny would it be if it was Edmonton who gets burned by the elimination of that "second contract" discount that used to exist.  I'm not saying that Edmonton is solely responsible for it...but it would bring a smile to my face.

Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Pittsburgh won while Sidney/Malkin were not making their big dollar contracts that they have today.  Same goes for Chicago with Toews/Kane and Anaheim with Perry/Getzlaf.  I think they won when their respective "great kids" were also "cheap kids".  Once they get the big contract, the money has to come from somewhere, and that comes from the added depth necessary to build that dynasty.
 
pmrules said:
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Pittsburgh won while Sidney/Malkin were not making their big dollar contracts that they have today.  Same goes for Chicago with Toews/Kane and Anaheim with Perry/Getzlaf.  I think they won when their respective "great kids" were also "cheap kids".  Once they get the big contract, the money has to come from somewhere, and that comes from the added depth necessary to build that dynasty.
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You're right about Chicago but half right with the Penguins. Crosby was already onto his second contract at 8.7 per when they won the cup.
 
Calling it now.  Leafs will repeat as Stanley Cup Champions in their 99th and 100th years.  (Z5)
 
Do others find that after winning the Cup, teams either have to make changes, because of salary implications, or they "tinker" too much and end up with a very different team the next season? I feel the changed team from the playoffs has something to do with repeating and potential dynasties.
 
Nik Pollock said:
pmrules said:
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Pittsburgh won while Sidney/Malkin were not making their big dollar contracts that they have today.  Same goes for Chicago with Toews/Kane and Anaheim with Perry/Getzlaf.  I think they won when their respective "great kids" were also "cheap kids".  Once they get the big contract, the money has to come from somewhere, and that comes from the added depth necessary to build that dynasty.
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You're right about Chicago but half right with the Penguins. Crosby was already onto his second contract at 8.7 per when they won the cup.
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ok - Interesting that Crosby got his pay day a year earlier than Malkin, considering Malkin was drafted earlier.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
Do others find that after winning the Cup, teams either have to make changes, because of salary implications, or they "tinker" too much and end up with a very different team the next season? I feel the changed team from the playoffs has something to do with repeating and potential dynasties.
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I think teams for the most part try to bring back a lot of the same players that they had success with as a general rule. If a team wins with a player they tend to be fairly eager to overlook his faults.

So far, other than Chicago, we haven't really seen teams forced to make changes to their roster post-cup because the cap kept going up. I think that why we haven't seen more teams in the hunt year to year has more to do with parity/the increased randomness that parity brings to the playoffs than anything having to do with personnel changes.
 
Nik Pollock said:
So far, other than Chicago, we haven't really seen teams forced to make changes to their roster post-cup because the cap kept going up. I think that why we haven't seen more teams in the hunt year to year has more to do with parity/the increased randomness that parity brings to the playoffs than anything having to do with personnel changes.
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Chicago is the most glaring example yeah. I don't even have a good resource to check out how teams changed, without it being too time consuming, but it just appears on the outside that teams change a fair bit after. I would think maybe tinkering too much might happen more than the cap implication factor.

It was just a thought, because, it's natural that cup winners ask for more money on their next deal, so I can see it having somewhat of an impact.
 
pmrules said:
ok - Interesting that Crosby got his pay day a year earlier than Malkin, considering Malkin was drafted earlier.
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Malkin started his NHL career a season later than Crosby.
 
Rob said:
I probably have an unhealthy amount of joy for everything that happened to the Bruins last night.
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Sure but can we kick them while they are down tomorrow, or do they come in mad and demolish us?  I don't think history is on our side here.
 
pnjunction said:
Rob said:
I probably have an unhealthy amount of joy for everything that happened to the Bruins last night.
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Sure but can we kick them while they are down tomorrow, or do they come in mad and demolish us?  I don't think history is on our side here.
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We'll see.  Recent history shows that any game against the Bruins is tough.  Whether they're coming in on a high or low they always seem to beat up on the Leafs.  Tomorrow night will really show if this Leafs team has turned a corner.
 
I feel like we always have a strong opening minute or two, get a penalty, they score and then it allllll goes downhill against Boston.

I think we do tend to play them better at home than in Boston, though.  We need the goaltending to be solid.
 
Potvin29 said:
I feel like we always have a strong opening minute or two, get a penalty, they score and then it allllll goes downhill against Boston.

I think we do tend to play them better at home than in Boston, though.  We need the goaltending to be solid.
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If this were a Hollywood script, Leafs would win tomorrow night and Kessel gets a hattrick.
 
Zee said:
Potvin29 said:
I feel like we always have a strong opening minute or two, get a penalty, they score and then it allllll goes downhill against Boston.

I think we do tend to play them better at home than in Boston, though.  We need the goaltending to be solid.
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If this were a Hollywood script, Leafs would win tomorrow night and Kessel gets a hattrick.
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And then, when asked about Kessel's recent struggles and breakthrough against the Bruins, Randy Carlyle would look horrified before telling us that Phil Kessel died five years ago.

I think we've got a pitch.
 
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