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2015-2016 NHL Thread

bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
For some reason, general fanager and nhlnumbers both have Chara's cap hit dropping to 4M in 2017-18. Anyone know what that's all about?
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nhlnumbers shows salary, not cap hit, for future seasons.
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His cap hit is definitely $4mil there. Capgeek had an explanation on their site about it, but I can't remember what it was.
 
Deebo said:
For some reason, general fanager and nhlnumbers both have Chara's cap hit dropping to 4M in 2017-18. Anyone know what that's all about?
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I found capgeek's explanation through an archived version of their site. It has to do with the rule that was put in place after the whole Kovalchuk-saga:

Any long-term contract ? five years or more ? that extends beyond the age of 40 (as of June 30 prior to the season in question) will have its traditional cap hit adjusted.

ADJUSTMENT A

For years of the contract up to and including the age of 40, the cap hit is calculated by dividing the total salary for those years by the number of years up to and including the 40-year-old season. For years of the contract ages 41 and beyond, the cap hit in each year is equal to the actual salary paid for that season.

Example: Zdeno Chara signed a seven-year, $45.5-million deal starting in 2011 (age 34) and running through 2018 (age 41). Because he earns a $4 million salary at age 41, his 2017-18 cap hit is $4 million. For all other seasons, his cap hit is $6,916,667, with his $41.5 million in remaining salary divided over six years.
 
Frank E said:
bustaheims said:
Well, leave it to the NHL to throw another silly wrinkle into the cap system.
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Well, that certainly makes Chara a more palatable option for a lot of teams.
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Not really. There's still the rest of this season and next season where his cap hit comes in a shade under $7M, and, by that last season, he could be so broken down, even $4M would be an overpayment. It could make him more moveable after next season - or, maybe, at the deadline next season - but, until then, nope.
 
bustaheims said:
Frank E said:
bustaheims said:
Well, leave it to the NHL to throw another silly wrinkle into the cap system.
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Well, that certainly makes Chara a more palatable option for a lot of teams.
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Not really. There's still the rest of this season and next season where his cap hit comes in a shade under $7M, and, by that last season, he could be so broken down, even $4M would be an overpayment. It could make him more moveable after next season - or, maybe, at the deadline next season - but, until then, nope.
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We shall see.
 
Frank E said:
I see what you're saying, but I think the Leafs are still trying to determine what they've got with Kapanen and some of the new arrivals to their system.
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But that's always going to be true with prospects. The point is that so long as you're trading prospects for other prospects and getting good value, there's really nothing inherently contradictory with that and rebuilding.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Frank E said:
I see what you're saying, but I think the Leafs are still trying to determine what they've got with Kapanen and some of the new arrivals to their system.
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But that's always going to be true with prospects. The point is that so long as you're trading prospects for other prospects and getting good value, there's really nothing inherently contradictory with that and rebuilding.
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I guess the question is, are you actually getting improved value or are you trading prospects for prospects because the grass looks greener?
 
L K said:
I guess the question is, are you actually getting improved value or are you trading prospects for prospects because the grass looks greener?
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Well, that's why you trust the folks making the trades I suppose. They'll have to decide if they're making a lateral move or not.
 
Nik the Trik said:
L K said:
I guess the question is, are you actually getting improved value or are you trading prospects for prospects because the grass looks greener?
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Well, that's why you trust the folks making the trades I suppose. They'll have to decide if they're making a lateral move or not.
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I think that's where my concern lies.  I was fully on board with trusting Shanahan/Hunter/Dubas.  I'm not sure where Lou fits in with that and I'm a little wary.
 
L K said:
I think that's where my concern lies.  I was fully on board with trusting Shanahan/Hunter/Dubas.  I'm not sure where Lou fits in with that and I'm a little wary.
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I'm 100% with you on that but I'm speaking more hypothetically here about the general idea of trading prospects for other prospects so as to strengthen an area where the organization is weak.

Like I said, with the Leafs in particular I see what you're saying but if we don't really trust Lamoriello's evaluations in general then there are much bigger fish to fry.
 
Well this article showed up basically right on time:

The magic is missing.

What?s much more alarming, though, is that along with the mojo, more tangible, more lasting ingredients to long-term success ? intensity, drive, resilience, compete, belief ? are sadly, shockingly lacking, too.

Magic is ethereal, fleeting. You can?t base a foundation on magic.

Those other elements, though, are controllable and must, especially for a group with as little wiggle room as this one, be non-negotiable.

The Find-A-Way Flames aren?t.

They?re losing the plot. Quickly.
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http://calgaryherald.com/sports/hockey/nhl/calgary-flames/johnsons-flames-magic-is-missing
 
Nik the Trik said:
The Blue Jackets are now 0-7 and have allowed 34 goals.
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How much longer can that go on.  I know their goaltending has fallen apart in Bobrovski but they also have only scored 13 goals in 7 games.  Hard to win when you can't even put up 2 goals in a game.
 
L K said:
How much longer can that go on.  I know their goaltending has fallen apart in Bobrovski but they also have only scored 13 goals in 7 games.  Hard to win when you can't even put up 2 goals in a game.
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And the rumour du jour is that they're looking at a trade that will send Atkinson to NJ for Larsson. Obviously, there'd be more pieces involved, but those are the names out there right now.
 
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