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2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion

herman said:
Deebo said:
@jonassiegel
Babcock confirms that Martin is healthy. Stands to be a healthy scratch Friday for the first time as a Leaf.

Sound the celebration alarm! Babcock has caught up to the boards from last year! Numfar! Do the dance of joy!

https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/933761145042817024

Not bad. Would be better if Babcock switched Marleau and Komorov, since the latter is no longer a top 9 player.
 
herman said:
Deebo said:
@jonassiegel
Babcock confirms that Martin is healthy. Stands to be a healthy scratch Friday for the first time as a Leaf.

Sound the celebration alarm! Babcock has caught up to the boards from last year! Numfar! Do the dance of joy!

https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/933761145042817024

The funny thing is, Martin hasn't annoyed me so much this year. He's been fairly adequate and even done some decent things.

But really I think this decision probably makes the Leafs a better lineup so you can't really argue.

I hope it works cos you know as soon as anything goes wrong Martin will be back in. Tie goes to the veteran after all.
 
Arn said:
The funny thing is, Martin hasn't annoyed me so much this year. He's been fairly adequate and even done some decent things.

But really I think this decision probably makes the Leafs a better lineup so you can't really argue.

I hope it works cos you know as soon as anything goes wrong Martin will be back in. Tie goes to the veteran after all.

I feel like he becomes really noticeable (in a not-good way I mean) the most when Babcock tries to run 4 even lines like he is here. He just feels like such an anchor on any line that he would go on. So I'd be fine with Babs alternating between using 4 even lines like this and sitting Martin and loading up the top-9 a little more and running a Martin-Moore-Soshnikov 4th line.
 
How much of Martin being scratched is some handshake agreement for getting Leivo minutes for signing the extension?
 
herman said:
How much of Martin being scratched is some handshake agreement for getting Leivo minutes for signing the extension?

I'm hoping for more of a broken hand agreement that forces Martin to retire early and get a cushy "player development" job.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
herman said:
How much of Martin being scratched is some handshake agreement for getting Leivo minutes for signing the extension?

I'm hoping for more of a broken hand agreement that forces Martin to retire early and get a cushy "player development" job.
I hear they are buying him a ticket to Robidas Island, hopefully Tatoo will have a fruity beverage ready when he lands.
 
herman said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
I'm pretty sure Herman has kidnapped Mike Babcock and taken his place.  That's why he was so snippy to those reporters about the lines question.  It was really Herman, who was afraid of being found out.  (psst Herman, move Nylander to centre).

When have I ever been snippy*?  ;D

* not counting that time I ran down the hall with scissors on each hand

Like Edward Scissorhands?
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
Like Edward Scissorhands?

Something like this, but with less flow.
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Didn't know where else to put this. So I'm in the office today with the wife.  My wife is doing something on the computer and I'm looking at some blurays on a shelf, and I notice a bag on the bottom shelf, and I'm like "oh what's this, I don't remember putting a bag here."  I look inside, see an Auston Matthews home Leafs jersey, wife turns and screams "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO you found your Christmas present!"  Man I felt so bad.  I wasn't even looking for something I was just innocently browsing and boom! 

Jersey is really nice though.
 
Zee said:
Didn't know where else to put this. So I'm in the office today with the wife.  My wife is doing something on the computer and I'm looking at some blurays on a shelf, and I notice a bag on the bottom shelf, and I'm like "oh what's this, I don't remember putting a bag here."  I look inside, see an Auston Matthews home Leafs jersey, wife turns and screams "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO you found your Christmas present!"  Man I felt so bad.  I wasn't even looking for something I was just innocently browsing and boom! 

Jersey is really nice though.

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Zee said:
Didn't know where else to put this. So I'm in the office today with the wife.  My wife is doing something on the computer and I'm looking at some blurays on a shelf, and I notice a bag on the bottom shelf, and I'm like "oh what's this, I don't remember putting a bag here."  I look inside, see an Auston Matthews home Leafs jersey, wife turns and screams "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO you found your Christmas present!"  Man I felt so bad.  I wasn't even looking for something I was just innocently browsing and boom! 

Jersey is really nice though.
haha that's a sharp ass jersey zee. niiiice.
 
Y'know it seems like a long time ago but only two seasons prior we were in full tank mode and last season was all the rookie debuts. This team really deserves another year to grow. The core is very, very young. If the players are allowed to make mistakes, learn from them and get used to the grind of an 82-game season in a parity league, it's all good.  I guess what I'm saying is we're on our way up no doubt.
 
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/935245612676628480

Babcock hiding Nylander on the 4th line, but probably still going to play him with 2nd line minutes. Nylander's a better '4th liner' than Marner because it's actually quite conceivable that he dummies the opposing line and actually takes a shot that can score. Or trucks it into the zone and on a line change, catches Matthews in stride with the sauce.
 
herman said:
Babcock hiding Nylander on the 4th line, but probably still going to play him with 2nd line minutes. Nylander's a better '4th liner' than Marner because it's actually quite conceivable that he dummies the opposing line and actually takes a shot that can score. Or trucks it into the zone and on a line change, catches Matthews in stride with the sauce.

Matthews, of course, gets the Sundin treatment.
 
bustaheims said:
herman said:
Babcock hiding Nylander on the 4th line, but probably still going to play him with 2nd line minutes. Nylander's a better '4th liner' than Marner because it's actually quite conceivable that he dummies the opposing line and actually takes a shot that can score. Or trucks it into the zone and on a line change, catches Matthews in stride with the sauce.

Matthews, of course, gets the Sundin treatment.

And I'd argue that of anyone on the team, he might actually be able to pull it off. Start balanced, and when the game starts to tilt, stack accordingly.

Nylander is sticking on the wing this year because apart from 'hiding' very well, Babcock probably sees him in a similar way to Marleau on offense: his speed and puck carrying is not as much of an advantage if he, as a centre, has to mind the gameflow as F3. And Nylander is a way better carrier than Marleau. Willy will still take the strong side draws when winging for Moore.
 
Leivo sitting yet again.....

The organization is never allowed to talk about effort ever again.
 
bustaheims said:
Matthews, of course, gets the Sundin treatment.

At least with Sundin it was understandable because there legit wasn't any other options. Matthews is playing with arguably the 5th and 6th best wingers on the team here.
 
Polak in for Carrick is more concerning for me. I'm getting used to Babcock's forward arrangements, but I really thought he shook the Polak-habit.
 

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