2017-2018 NHL Thread

[herman]

*puts on aluminum foil hat*

The only slack I'm cutting for Ovi and Malkin with regards to their pumping Putin's tires is largely because they've been indoctrinated from their youth. The government has full control over the media and education. Putin's lauded as a superhero in Russia, solver of all problems. Celebrities that endorse him are lavishly rewarded.

 

[princedpw]

https://twitter.com/gabrielletf/status/933952481553502208

Oh.

Yeah, I'm sorry but Pittsburgh hanging out with Trump looks awful with this kind of context.

The context provided by the white supremacy thing doesn't help either.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/934112613650202625

Really enjoying the Oilers getting roasted these days.

If Chiarelli was stopped these past three Junes...

On one of the latest HockeyPDOCasts, Jonathan Willis brought up a fun point about the Oilers' offseason that I'll probably looking to the numbers of: Chiarelli went and traded away all the players who had down years (relative to their average career production) and kept all the ones that over performed. Now when regression has come to visit the overachievers, there's no offset underachievers regressing up.

 

[disco]

https://twitter.com/cultureoflosing/status/934465386787024897
Hall/Devils and Eberle/Isles doing well. You've got to be able to grow and make mistakes. Development is a subtle business.

 

[dappleganger]

*puts on aluminum foil hat*

The only slack I'm cutting for Ovi and Malkin with regards to their pumping Putin's tires is largely because they've been indoctrinated from their youth. The government has full control over the media and education. Putin's lauded as a superhero in Russia, solver of all problems. Celebrities that endorse him are lavishly rewarded.

I would add, they've both met him personally and maybe they like him. We see Putin from a western bias. Ovi and Malkin might not be looking too far into Putin's political ideologies.

I don't give hockey players a lot of credit for understanding the nuances of world politics.
 

 

[Kin]

*puts on aluminum foil hat*

The only slack I'm cutting for Ovi and Malkin with regards to their pumping Putin's tires is largely because they've been indoctrinated from their youth. The government has full control over the media and education. Putin's lauded as a superhero in Russia, solver of all problems. Celebrities that endorse him are lavishly rewarded.

If Putin had full control over the media, he probably wouldn't feel the need to murder so many journalists.

 

[Kin]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/former-nhler-riley-cote-wants-hockey-embrace-cannabis/

An interesting article on the reality that, come next season, 13 of the 31 teams will play where marijuana is legal for medicinal as well as recreational use as well as its potential benefits medicinally for hockey players.

 

[herman]

*puts on aluminum foil hat*

The only slack I'm cutting for Ovi and Malkin with regards to their pumping Putin's tires is largely because they've been indoctrinated from their youth. The government has full control over the media and education. Putin's lauded as a superhero in Russia, solver of all problems. Celebrities that endorse him are lavishly rewarded.

If Putin had full control over the media, he probably wouldn't feel the need to murder so many journalists.

Touche. He only needs to control the levers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0utzB6oDan0
This song (referenced in the video above) is stuck in my head.

 

[Kin]

Touche. He only needs to control the levers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0utzB6oDan0
This song (referenced in the video above) is stuck in my head.

Right. So I don't really think we need to go looking for reasons to excuse people stumping for the guy. Despite the fact that there is opposition to him, and so supporting him can't simply be chalked up to "these grown men don't know no better", he does have legitimate support. And I think it's ok, in fact probably good, if we let people like Ovechkin and Malkin know that supporting someone like Putin doesn't really fly here regardless of why.

 

[Frank E]

Touche. He only needs to control the levers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0utzB6oDan0
This song (referenced in the video above) is stuck in my head.

Right. So I don't really think we need to go looking for reasons to excuse people stumping for the guy. Despite the fact that there is opposition to him, he does have legitimate support. And I think it's ok, in fact probably good, if we let people like Ovechkin and Malkin know that supporting someone like Putin doesn't really fly here regardless of why.

This is a correct statement. 

 

[disco]

https://twitter.com/jonathonj1970/status/934852085849448448

 

[disco]

https://twitter.com/MNM_Leafs/status/935026664270123009

 

[herman]

By the by: does anyone know Patric Hornqvist's team-given nickname? It's got to be the obvious, right?

https://theathletic.com/168060/2017/11/28/ian-coles-days-in-pittsburgh-numbered-as-jim-rutherford-seeks-a-trade/

Confirmed!

 

[herman]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-eberle-hall-media-really-affects-nhlers/

Friedman with good thoughts about the firestorm that the Oilers and their city?s media sparked in recent days.

 

[disco]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-eberle-hall-media-really-affects-nhlers/

Friedman with good thoughts about the firestorm that the Oilers and their city?s media sparked in recent days.

Nice piece, thanks for sharing Hermanator.

 

[Kin]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-eberle-hall-media-really-affects-nhlers/

Friedman with good thoughts about the firestorm that the Oilers and their city?s media sparked in recent days.

My thing about that is that while I think talking to the players is valuable I do wonder to what extent guys like Eberle and Hall can really differentiate between their confidence being hurt by sportswriters saying they're terrible and their confidence being hurt by the fact that their teams are losing all the time. I get that Friedman's concept of reporting is being as accurate a stenographer as possible but that seems like a pretty entry level question.

 

[herman]

For reference, here's the match that was thrown into the barrel of kindling and shredded newspapers doused in lighter fluid that has been Oilers' beat reporting the past couple of weeks:
https://twitter.com/SportsnetSpec/status/934478077488500736

Social media does tend to amplify the various mobs if you read every little thing written @ you. The relative anonymity of the keyboard and screen also seems to give people license to let too many of their inner thoughts out.

I liked Friedman's more measured take in his work in general, as that suits my preferred style of processing things like this (similar to McKenzie, and to slightly differing ways, Mirtle and co.). I also know a lot of fans gravitate to the more impassioned responses and opinions that grace certain publications, or that happen to have intermission soapboxes. There's definitely that differentiation here too.

If you want to see mental toughness, check out how gracefully most female sports reporters handle the abuse they endure on a regular basis.

 

[Kin]

I liked Friedman's more measured take in his work in general, as that suits my preferred style of processing things like this (similar to McKenzie, and to slightly differing ways, Mirtle and co.). I also know a lot of fans gravitate to the more impassioned responses and opinions that grace certain publications, or that happen to have intermission soapboxes. There's definitely that differentiation here too.

I think there's a pretty healthy 3rd path that doesn't sacrifice "measurement" while still being capable of staking out a position on an issue.

Seriously, count up the sentences in that Friedman piece that seem explicitly designed to make people know that he isn't criticizing anyone or taking a position on any of it.

 

[herman]

I liked Friedman's more measured take in his work in general, as that suits my preferred style of processing things like this (similar to McKenzie, and to slightly differing ways, Mirtle and co.). I also know a lot of fans gravitate to the more impassioned responses and opinions that grace certain publications, or that happen to have intermission soapboxes. There's definitely that differentiation here too.

I think there's a pretty healthy 3rd path that doesn't sacrifice "measurement" while still being capable of staking out a position on an issue.

Seriously, count up the sentences in that Friedman piece that seem explicitly designed to make people know that he isn't criticizing anyone or taking a position on any of it.

Haha, yeah I see it. I'm wondering what Friedman's mandate is, vs. someone like Spector. I can't remember Friedman ever giving a personal opinion.

 

[Zee]

Holland for Cracknell.

https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/canadiens-acquire-adam-cracknell-from-the-rangers/c-293510628

Every time Peter Holland gets traded, I remember back to when someone suggested he was better than Kadri.