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2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!

hockeyfan1 said:
Oh, oh...

In reference to the Marlies 7-4 loss Saturday to the Utica Comets:

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Darling was on the ice in Carolina this week. When he returns they will likely waive McElhinney? I could see WAS and TOR putting in waiver claims.
 
cabber24 said:
hockeyfan1 said:
Oh, oh...

In reference to the Marlies 7-4 loss Saturday to the Utica Comets:

[tweet]1051262751975321601[/tweet]
Darling was on the ice in Carolina this week. When he returns they will likely waive McElhinney? I could see WAS and TOR putting in waiver claims.
We have first dibs on Picard and McBackup
 
Highlander said:
We have first dibs on Picard and McBackup

This is a misconception that I propagated earlier in the season. We don't have first dibs, but if we do claim them successfully, we would be able to put them on the Marlies immediately.
 
herman said:
Highlander said:
We have first dibs on Picard and McBackup

This is a misconception that I propagated earlier in the season. We don't have first dibs, but if we do claim them successfully, we would be able to put them on the Marlies immediately.
The team who has the least percentage of obtainable points to date gets waiver priority.
 
cabber24 said:
herman said:
Highlander said:
We have first dibs on Picard and McBackup

This is a misconception that I propagated earlier in the season. We don't have first dibs, but if we do claim them successfully, we would be able to put them on the Marlies immediately.
The team who has the least percentage of obtainable points to date gets waiver priority.

Two more misconceptions here:

1.  In the first month (ie October) of the season, the team that finished lowest in the standings the previous year has priority.

2.  " if we do claim them successfully, we would be able to put them on the Marlies immediately"... we can be successful in claiming either of them, but we also have to be the only one to put in a waiver claim.  So, for instance, we would be successful if teams like Vegas, Tampa, Boston, Nashville, or Winnipeg (they all finished higher than us last year... see misconception #1)  also put in a claim but then we couldn't immediately send them to the Marlies
 
https://twitter.com/TheAthleticTO/status/1054139444025085952

Just to make every possible thread about Nylander, Trevor Moore is yet another example of the development team making a strong case for resolving the cap crunch with a steady stream of Marlie graduates who can step in and play so that players like Nylander can be appropriately paid.

Most people might be thinking, who the f is Trevor Moore anyway. If you caught the Calder Cup last season, he was right there alongside Andreas Johnsson in effectiveness, but playing from the bottom of the lineup. He's a waterbug through the neutral zone, a zone exit and entry machine, plays smartly above the puck so coaches love him, and takes pucks with aplomb; the only knock is that he is smallish and was undrafted.

Dubas picked him up for the Marlies in 2016 after identifying him for a rookie dev camp tryout. He made the #15 slot in this offseason's PPP T25U25.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/TheAthleticTO/status/1054139444025085952
I agree Herman. The Blackhawks were able to maintain a winning team for years by constantly bringing in players that had developed in the AHL or Europe. The Leafs may have to move Kadri in order to facilitate keeping Matthews, Marner and Nylander, but the blow will be lessened if players such as Moore and Grundstrom and Engvall can successfully make the jump to the NHL.
Just to make every possible thread about Nylander, Trevor Moore is yet another example of the development team making a strong case for resolving the cap crunch with a steady stream of Marlie graduates who can step in and play so that players like Nylander can be appropriately paid.

Most people might be thinking, who the f is Trevor Moore anyway. If you caught the Calder Cup last season, he was right there alongside Andreas Johnsson in effectiveness, but playing from the bottom of the lineup. He's a waterbug through the neutral zone, a zone exit and entry machine, plays smartly above the puck so coaches love him, and takes pucks with aplomb; the only knock is that he is smallish and was undrafted.

Dubas picked him up for the Marlies in 2016 after identifying him for a rookie dev camp tryout. He made the #15 slot in this offseason's PPP T25U25.
 
herman said:

Gilman and Corrado were BFFs back in their Vancouver days (presumably, at the very least Gilman was the AGM there during Corrado's drafting/development phase). Gilman was fired the summer before the Canucks lost Corrado on waivers.
 
Frank E said:
I thought the Marlies were pretty flush with d-men?

This has typically been their defence corps this season:

Rosen-Liljegren
Borgman-LoVerde
Nielsen-Subban

It's not bad, but losing Dermott and Holl was a pretty big blow to them. I'm guessing Corrado, LoVerde, and Subban will all rotate in and out of the line-up on the right side.

I think this is pretty similar to the Gagner situation. A local player who should be an upper echelon AHL guy wanted to play close to home and Gilman jumped at the chance to add to a position where there isn't a lot of prospect depth.
 
Frank E said:
I thought the Marlies were pretty flush with d-men?

Mostly on the left side:

LD:
Rosen
Borgman
Neilsen
Sandin*
Cumiskey
Jardine

RD:
Liljegren
Loverde
Subban
Corrado
Sproul

* Injured

With the number of 3 in 3 weekends the Marlies have over the span of the season, you need more guys than the typical NHL roster.
 
Coco-puffs said:
With the number of 3 in 3 weekends the Marlies have over the span of the season, you need more guys than the typical NHL roster.

Unless I missed an announcement, Sproul and Cumiskey are also both on PTO's at the moment so they might not be hanging around.
 
cabber24 said:
Scott Darling on a conditioning stint. McBackup going back to the waiver wire?

Possibly. Outside his record, his numbers aren't great - better than Mrazek, but still not good - and the cap saving is the same, regardless of which gets sent their AHL affiliate. Coin-flip on which of the two they decide to hold on to.
 
The Marlies' goaltending isn't looking great either, but I don't know what the underlying defensive numbers look like.  Glass at .875 and Kaskisuo at .860, so far.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/TorontoMarlies/status/1054393153296441344

FRANKIE'S BACK

Did he just leapfrog Jordan Subban on the depth chart?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Gilman and Corrado were BFFs back in their Vancouver days (presumably, at the very least Gilman was the AGM there during Corrado's drafting/development phase). Gilman was fired the summer before the Canucks lost Corrado on waivers.

Seems like quite a bit of unfinished business Gilman is picking back up. Let's see if the dev team can Justin Holl Frankie back to form.

bustaheims said:
Possibly. Outside his record, his numbers aren't great - better than Mrazek, but still not good - and the cap saving is the same, regardless of which gets sent their AHL affiliate. Coin-flip on which of the two they decide to hold on to.

This is another one of those areas where MLSE's nigh unlimited funds gives the Leafs a leg up on smaller markets. The Leafs can afford to blow a lot of cash on carrying nearly two teams worth of Marlies where there is no cap and no roster limit (on top of the development, nutrition, sports science, amenities spending), so even though McElhinney's a fully buriable hit, the one-way contract makes it a 6-figure amount (850k) that other teams want to avoid for their minor league expenses.
 
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