2019-2020 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[Highlander]

I'll take Borje Salming for $1,000. Alex

 

[groundskeeper willie]

What's the latest on Dustin Byfuglien? The last I heard the relationship with the Jets was pretty bad and they might be forced to move him once he's healthy. A trade involving Kapanen and Barrie might be a place to start

 

[Kin]

Or Neidermayer or Lidstrom or Coffey or Orr or....

Just personally, of the guys I've seen play in my lifetime, my top 5 Defensemen I'd want on the ice with a 1 goal lead are:

1. Pronger
2. Lidstrom
3. Bourque
4. Chara
5. Niedermayer/Keith

Although that may be a little off topic.

A few guys on that list that were traded for forwards!!

If it lands us Pronger, I'd be willing to trade Shanahan.

 

[nutman]

Me  I would take a Scott Stevens in his prime in a heartbeat .

 

[Zee]

Trade Nylander and we're left with a single top-6 winger on the team. That's a problem. He just isn't as expendable as some people think he is. I get the defence can use improving, but not at that cost*.

*obligatory comment that specifies if the defenceman is a Provorov/Werenski type then sure let's talk but those guys aren't available so let's stop pretending this is what we're talking about when people say 'Trade Nylander!'

I think Nylander could score the OT winner in the Stanley Cup final and there would still be someone with a take like "yeah but if we had traded Nylander for Pietrangelo this game wouldn't have had to go to OT!"

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Me  I would take a Scott Stevens in his prime in a heartbeat .

I think Scott Stevens would get eaten alive with today's speed.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/LeafsPR/status/1210601376146956288

Damn. So Moore was expected to return from his shoulder injury on the 17th against the Sabres. He ended up staying out because he took a "bump" at practice the day before and reported that he wasn't feeling right. He then missed the next game on the 20th as well, before playing on the 21st against the Red Wings. He then missed the game on the 23rd against Carolina because he again reported "not feeling well".

I get concussions are tricky, but really what as the point in him playing 9 minutes against Detroit when he could have just taken another week off during the Christmas break?

 

[Hobbes]

https://twitter.com/LeafsPR/status/1210601376146956288
I get concussions are tricky, but really what as the point in him playing 9 minutes against Detroit when he could have just taken another week off during the Christmas break?

I think the problem is the player can feel fine and test fine, think he's ready to go, and then something unexpected sets him back. With a player like Moore you would also think that he puts a lot of pressure on himself to get back into the line-up as soon as possible whereas a more established NHLer who had no job security fears at all might have taken a bit of extra time. If the player doesn't report it -- or isn't honest with himself -- it's the kind of injury that team doctors can't really evaluate independent of what the player is telling them.

 

[Zee]

https://twitter.com/LeafsPR/status/1210601376146956288
I get concussions are tricky, but really what as the point in him playing 9 minutes against Detroit when he could have just taken another week off during the Christmas break?

I think the problem is the player can feel fine and test fine, think he's ready to go, and then something unexpected sets him back. With a player like Moore you would also think that he puts a lot of pressure on himself to get back into the line-up as soon as possible whereas a more established NHLer who had no job security fears at all might have taken a bit of extra time. If the player doesn't report it -- or isn't honest with himself -- it's the kind of injury that team doctors can't really evaluate independent of what the player is telling them.

Yeah it's not like a broken bone or something you can tell is healed. He might have felt he was 100% but then nope. Sucks for him hope he's better soon.

 

[Pick]

Or Neidermayer or Lidstrom or Coffey or Orr or....

Just personally, of the guys I've seen play in my lifetime, my top 5 Defensemen I'd want on the ice with a 1 goal lead are:

1. Pronger
2. Lidstrom
3. Bourque
4. Chara
5. Niedermayer/Keith

Although that may be a little off topic.

Pretty hard to argue with that list. For mine, I got to see the tail end of Orr's career so he'd instantly jump to #1, but I'm fine with Pronger as #2. Bourque would be my #3 ahead of Lidstrom though that's a close call.

That last spot would be a horrible decision. Beyond guys like Chara and Niedermayer I also got to see Brad Park, Al McInnis, Larry Robinson, Phil Housley, Denis Potvin, and Larry Murphy play and, much as I like Keith, I don't think he's in the same conversation. Salming might be in the mix too, though that's probably more due to homerism.

Dragging it back on topic, what we need is something like a Letang...a gem drafted in the middle round. Unfortunately our competitive window might not have enough time for that (not to mention the fans would riot before that hypothetical player had enough time to develop).

...so Kyle quit farting around with Cody Ceci and get on with what needs to be done.

It takes two to tango. I don't want to see him have to cough up a decent pick or young asset to move on from Ceci so it might just be that there's no other GM willing to take on that salary at a price Dubas is willing to pay. If he can find a way to move on by the deadline, great, as long as the cost is minimal. If not, let him play out the season on the 3rd pairing, and if you really want to you can bring up one of the kids for the playoffs when there's no cap. Ceci can be a black ace while one of the others gets his feet wet on the 3rd pairing.

I'd place Serge Savard over some on that list.

 

[Highlander]

With a patented Savardian spinorama move.

God I loved Danny Galivan and Dick Irvin.

 

[disco]

https://twitter.com/chrismeaney/status/1197301308031717376
With their run reversing the early damage, this deserves another share.

 

[Guilt Trip]

With a patented Savardian spinorama move.

God I loved Danny Galivan and Dick Irvin.

Danny Gallivan was awesome. Irvin was pretty good too!

 

[hockeyfan1]

With a patented Savardian spinorama move.

God I loved Danny Galivan and Dick Irvin.

Danny Gallivan was awesome. Irvin was pretty good too!

Every Saturday night from Mon...tree..alll!  That was back in those glorious days of the Flying Frenchmen.  While watching the Leafs, the broadcast would turn it over to showcase whenever the Habs scored.

 

[Hobbes]

With a patented Savardian spinorama move.

God I loved Danny Galivan and Dick Irvin.

Danny Gallivan was awesome. Irvin was pretty good too!

Every Saturday night from Mon...tree..alll!  That was back in those glorious days of the Flying Frenchmen.  While watching the Leafs, the broadcast would turn it over to showcase whenever the Habs scored.

Wow...that really sets off the ol' nostalgia glands

 

[ZBBM]

Just chiming in to say, what kind of a season would we be having if Rielly wasn't having the worst season of his career (via my goodly eyeballs)?

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Just chiming in to say, what kind of a season would we be having if Rielly wasn't having the worst season of his career (via my goodly eyeballs)?

I'm always a big Rielly defender but he has been horrible. Last night was painful to watch

 

[Zee]

The @MapleLeafs have recalled forward Kenny Agostino and defenceman Timothy Liljegren from the @TorontoMarlies (AHL).

Forwards Ilya Mikheyev and Trevor Moore have been placed on injured reserve. #LeafsForever 

 

[herman]

Muzzin finally goes down too
https://twitter.com/leafspr/status/1211037921580605443

Martin Marincin time!

And Sandin-Liljegren szn after the WJC

 

[Arn]

This is going to be one of those seasons where the Leafs never actually ice their full first choice lineup isn?t it