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2020-2021 NHL Thread

bustaheims said:
L K said:
Insane stretch of play will do that but McDavid is at 2PPG (22 points in 11 games).  Maybe someone should body check him?
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He and Draisaitl are poised to lap the rest of the league in the Art Ross race. 22 pt for McD, 21 for Draisaitl, 14 for the next highest (Marner & MacKinnon). They're going to absolutely feast on some of the teams in the North - Ottawa especially.
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...and EDM still sucks! How is that possible?
 
bustaheims said:
L K said:
Insane stretch of play will do that but McDavid is at 2PPG (22 points in 11 games).  Maybe someone should body check him?
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He and Draisaitl are poised to lap the rest of the league in the Art Ross race. 22 pt for McD, 21 for Draisaitl, 14 for the next highest (Marner & MacKinnon). They're going to absolutely feast on some of the teams in the North - Ottawa especially.
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The Leafs should have also feasted on Ottawa to be honest.  I could see 4-5 points for Marner against that team too if they played their game.  Hopefully next time
 
Zee said:
The Leafs should have also feasted on Ottawa to be honest.  I could see 4-5 points for Marner against that team too if they played their game.  Hopefully next time
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Yeah. It it wasn't the team's 2nd and 3rd games of the season, combined with the adrenaline boost the sens had for their opening night, they probably would have. Now that they're starting to click a little more, hopefully they will.
 
Frank E said:
So, what do they do now?  Buy him out?  Just leave him as healthy scratch for the season?
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If the player agrees, they can put him on unconditional waivers now for contract termination.

If he has been found to be in contravention of his SPC, the Rangers can put him on unconditional waivers for contract termination.

If he does not want to terminate his contract and there is no legal case for termination otherwise, they can just assign him to the AHL (which is in pseudo-limbo) and then tell him to stay home.

Stories are probably coming out once the Rangers wash their hands of him.

Edit: https://theathletic.com/2359578/2021/02/01/tony-deangelo-clears-waivers-new-york-rangers/
No buyout option available.

If they assign him to AHL and he refuses to report, they can suspend him and then put them on the road to termination.

Any termination option, other than mutual, is going to be fraught with grievance/appeals with the union.
 
I still think they can find a taker in a trade, they'll just have to retain the full 50%. A team with a good veteran presence that can keep him in line could benefit from him - but, it would also basically be his last chance.
 
bustaheims said:
I still think they can find a taker in a trade, they'll just have to retain the full 50%. A team with a good veteran presence that can keep him in line could benefit from him - but, it would also basically be his last chance.
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A drop of turd in a bucket of the most pristine of spring water still makes it a turd bucket.
 
Frank E said:
So, what do they do now?  Buy him out?  Just leave him as healthy scratch for the season?
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He'll probably be assigned to the AHL but won't go there because, according to a Ranger's reporter, they won't want him there influencing any kids. So he'll get paid to stay home and then he'll be bought out in the off season.
I don't see anyone trading for him.
 
herman said:
A drop of turd in a bucket of the most pristine of spring water still makes it a turd bucket.
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Yeah, but how many buckets in this league don't have some turds in them? This is just a more public turd.
 
Yeah, for a team without a big media profile I think the potential value might be too much to pass up.
 
So where does DeAngelo rank on the list of hockey players with poor core values?  Is he above or below Tim Thomas, or Steve Downey?  Is giving him another chance different than the number of chances a player like Matt Cooke received, or Raffi Torres?
 
bustaheims said:
On a related note, Matt Murray has really just collapsed into awfulness, huh? I thought he'd rebound some getting the clear cut starting role in Ottawa, but, clearly, it's just made things worse for him so far. Lucky for the sens that they don't need the cap space for a couple years, because that contract is basically unmoveable.
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I'm not overly high on Murray but playing behind that group of players makes it pretty tough to put up numbers.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
bustaheims said:
On a related note, Matt Murray has really just collapsed into awfulness, huh? I thought he'd rebound some getting the clear cut starting role in Ottawa, but, clearly, it's just made things worse for him so far. Lucky for the sens that they don't need the cap space for a couple years, because that contract is basically unmoveable.
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I'm not overly high on Murray but playing behind that group of players makes it pretty tough to put up numbers.
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That's certainly part of it, but Murray has been especially bad. Ottawa has the 2nd worst Sv% on scoring chances against (ironically, it's Pittsburgh that has the worst, but they allow a significant amount fewer) and the worst differential between expected goals against and actual goals against. Ottawa hasn't played well, but Murray's performance has been equally bad, if not worse.
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
So where does DeAngelo rank on the list of hockey players with poor core values?  Is he above or below Tim Thomas, or Steve Downey?  Is giving him another chance different than the number of chances a player like Matt Cooke received, or Raffi Torres?
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I think the real killer is that it's not just the poor core values, it's the getting in fights with teammates. Tim Thomas was too busy prepping for the coming race wars for that.
 
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