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2020-2021 NHL Thread

Nik said:
The thing about people defending Wilson that I'll never get is that despite all the quibbling about what makes for a legal vs. illegal hit and "did he wait .5 seconds to hit him or .7 seconds" or did he intentionally target the head or whatever is that it's clear that Wilson is the kind of player who either intentionally tries to hurt people or plays so recklessly that he doesn't care if he hurts people and I just cannot for the life of me understand anyone who thinks that's something that should be in the game.
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Wholeheartedly agree. I'm all for guys who throw hard hits and make other teams pay the price physically. I can't get behind guys who are out there either trying to hurt other players or simply not caring if they do. There needs to be a minimum level of respect for the players on the other team. When a guy has the kind of track record Wilson does, you can't look at him and say "oh, he just made a mistake" or it's just an isolated incident. It's a pattern with him. It's who he is as a player, and that part of him doesn't belong in the game.
 
bustaheims said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/2Murphy8/status/1368723033221959687

Oh, come on...
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One of the worst penalty calls I've seen in a long time.
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It's crazy. He is clearly pushed into the goalie and literally bends over backwards to avoid hitting him. The goalie is barely touched and the play easily comes to a stop at the net. There's plays like this literally all the time.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
It's crazy. He is clearly pushed into the goalie and literally bends over backwards to avoid hitting him. The goalie is barely touched and the play easily comes to a stop at the net. There's plays like this literally all the time.
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There's much more significant contact that doesn't get called, but this nothing play does? Officiating in the NHL is like a box of chocolates . . .
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/2Murphy8/status/1368723033221959687

Oh, come on...
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He intentionally went out of his way towards the goalie hoping to get "bumped" into him. There is absolutely no other reason then that because the goalie had it covered, play was over. If the puck was loose, different story. I have no issue with a penalty being called there.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/2Murphy8/status/1368723033221959687

Oh, come on...
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He intentionally went out of his way towards the goalie hoping to get "bumped" into him. There is absolutely no other reason then that because the goalie had it covered, play was over. If the puck was loose, different story. I have no issue with a penalty being called there.
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Yeah, I don't see it that way. He shoots the puck at the goalie then circles in for the unlikely case that there's a rebound or a fumble, which players are taught to do. The defensemen aren't even challenging his path to the net assuming the play is dead. His trajectory is clearly taking him towards a stop a couple of feet in front of the net. But then the forward covering Konecny gets his stick up high while lifting Konecny's stick, and K gets his arm up defensively and is knocked off balance by the forward then shoved by the defenseman.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Guilt Trip said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/2Murphy8/status/1368723033221959687

Oh, come on...
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He intentionally went out of his way towards the goalie hoping to get "bumped" into him. There is absolutely no other reason then that because the goalie had it covered, play was over. If the puck was loose, different story. I have no issue with a penalty being called there.
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Yeah, I don't see it that way. He shoots the puck at the goalie then circles in for the unlikely case that there's a rebound or a fumble, which players are taught to do. The defensemen aren't even challenging his path to the net assuming the play is dead. His trajectory is clearly taking him towards a stop a couple of feet in front of the net. But then the forward covering Konecny gets his stick up high while lifting Konecny's stick, and K gets his arm up defensively and is knocked off balance by the forward then shoved by the defenseman.
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It's a BS call but I don't think Konecny is innocent on the play. I think that you are correct, he was initially circling in for a rebound, but when he know there wasn't one, he made sure that he caused some havoc. I don't mind the play in the least though.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Yeah, I don't see it that way. He shoots the puck at the goalie then circles in for the unlikely case that there's a rebound or a fumble, which players are taught to do. The defensemen aren't even challenging his path to the net assuming the play is dead. His trajectory is clearly taking him towards a stop a couple of feet in front of the net. But then the forward covering Konecny gets his stick up high while lifting Konecny's stick, and K gets his arm up defensively and is knocked off balance by the forward then shoved by the defenseman.
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Yup. If he's allowed to follow his path unimpeded, he comes to a stop about 18 inches or so in front the goaltender.
 
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1369015063995154432

Hey, here's some rule proposals that have nothing to do with the Oilers draft history.
 
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1369026000575733765

So, clean slate for everyone? Sure, why not?

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1369026779520921610
 
You know what I haven't remotely noticed as being different since the pandemic started....the frequency of irrelevant media quotes from post-game scrums.
 
L K said:
You know what I haven't remotely noticed as being different since the pandemic started....the frequency of irrelevant media quotes from post-game scrums.
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Yup. The scrums haven't disappeared. They've just gone virtual and become much more organized as a result.
 
bustaheims said:
L K said:
You know what I haven't remotely noticed as being different since the pandemic started....the frequency of irrelevant media quotes from post-game scrums.
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Yup. The scrums haven't disappeared. They've just gone virtual and become much more organized as a result.
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I have always found it kind of weird that beat reporters feel the need to be in the change room to get their quotes.  It just seems like a bizarre and unnecessary place to have questions asked.
 
L K said:
I have always found it kind of weird that beat reporters feel the need to be in the change room to get their quotes.  It just seems like a bizarre and unnecessary place to have questions asked.
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I think the idea is that you want to talk to guys immediately before they might cool down and their media training kicks in so while I agree that most media interactions in locker rooms feel unnecessary because it's just the same platitudes you always hear just with a partially dressed player I would say that the only times I've heard players say anything interesting at all it's been in locker rooms with the possible exception of the Iverson "practice" speech.
 
Nik said:
L K said:
I have always found it kind of weird that beat reporters feel the need to be in the change room to get their quotes.  It just seems like a bizarre and unnecessary place to have questions asked.
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I think the idea is that you want to talk to guys immediately before they might cool down and their media training kicks in so while I agree that most media interactions in locker rooms feel unnecessary because it's just the same platitudes you always hear just with a partially dressed player I would say that the only times I've heard players say anything interesting at all it's been in locker rooms with the possible exception of the Iverson "practice" speech.
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From my experience (all be it in minor backwater European hockey) of speaking to players and coaches for interviews, the immediate after the game when emotions were still raw, particularly if there had been contentious moments, got some brilliant interviews.

I remember putting one interview out which got the head coach fined. Oops. But I asked him if he was 100% sure he wanted it to go out before I hit upload. We did a whip round collection to help pay his fine.

When you do an arranged interview, while some players or coaches were much chatty and forthcoming, it was a totally different dynamic when they weren?t hyped up and had time to properly consider their responses.

(For the record we did the interviews on the bench. Thankfully. The locker rooms smelt like nothing else I?ve ever smelt)
 
This is pretty wonderful
https://twitter.com/ma_perreaulttva/status/1369143153161170947
https://twitter.com/ma_perreaulttva/status/1369152992012771335
 
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