2020-2021 NHL Thread

[Guilt Trip]

That?s not necessarily a terrible contract. Pearson has shown an ability to be a ~40 point guy. The Canucks should be focused on trading him, but that?s a different issue.

https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/1380274327094968329
Interesting...I know who I'd want..

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Ok, but MD doctors are not virologists or epidemiologists, and I have heard evidence to the contrary by both. If team A has a positive case, plays a game against Team B then a player on Team B gets sick then that is enough I think to at least take it seriously that it can happen on the ice. As a parallel in gyms people are also hypothetically moving around in large spaces and not necessarily in close contact and they still have become sick. Cold, dry conditions do keep viruses viable for longer, that's why you out viruses in fridges or freezers to store them.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6941a4.htm?s_cid=mm6941a4_w

https://champ.gothamist.com/champ/gothamist/news/shut-the-schools-down-dont-shut-hockey-down-hockey-fans-bristle-at-governor-murphys-threat?__twitter_impression=true

Close contact is likely most risky but that doesn't mean on ice conditions aren't.

Pretty sure I didn't say I don't take the risk seriously. Unconcerned perhaps was the wrong term to use. I agree that transmission can happen on the ice. All I said is that I'd be more concerned when the group of players come together for a chat with the coach as opposed to when they're actually running drills. I think that sort of makes sense.

Note: I wouldn't consider the space in a gym equal to that in a gym. I also wouldn't consider the movement in a gym equal to that of an NHL Practice.

 

[bustaheims]

https://twitter.com/JShannonhl/status/1380331827823583233

So then the 25-14-2 Oilers are 16-14-2 against the rest of the North.

Edit: And if you remove the Ottawa games, Edmonton's goal differential goes from +19 to -4!

Edmonton is probably the most extreme example, but you can do that to a few teams in the league this season. Equally as amusing is Montreal: 6-0-3 against Vancouver, 11-11-6 against the rest of the division, and from +17 to even.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/EdmontonJack/status/1380336799583625217

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/JShannonhl/status/1380331827823583233

So then the 25-14-2 Oilers are 16-14-2 against the rest of the North.

Edit: And if you remove the Ottawa games, Edmonton's goal differential goes from +19 to -4!

Edmonton is probably the most extreme example, but you can do that to a few teams in the league this season. Equally as amusing is Montreal: 6-0-3 against Vancouver, 11-11-6 against the rest of the division, and from +17 to even.

Or if you take away Toronto's record against Edmonton...

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/EdmontonJack/status/1380336799583625217

That's.... a take.

 

[Kin]

I mean, it's true. You can always make an argument for any team that the single most impactful player as to whether or not they win or lose is the goalie but given that goalies don't win the Hart every year it's kind of a stupid one to bring up.

 

[bustaheims]

Or if you take away Toronto's record against Edmonton...

21-9-1 would still have the Leafs with the best point % in the division, whereas Edmonton and Montreal would be battling with Vancouver and Calgary for the final 2 playoff spots.

The Leafs have earned at least 60% of the available points against all 6 divisional opponents.

 

[bustaheims]

Or if you take away Toronto's record against Edmonton...

21-9-1 would still have the Leafs with the best point % in the division, whereas Edmonton and Montreal would be battling with Vancouver and Calgary for the final 2 playoff spots.

The Leafs have earned at least 60% of the available points against all 6 divisional opponents.

Just to expand on this, here are the 4 Northern playoff teams against the other 3 playoff teams:

Toronto: 13-4-2
Edmonton: 8-10-2
Winnipeg: 9-8-2
Montreal: 7-6-4

3 teams are clearly feasting on Vancouver, Calgary, and Ottawa, while the Leafs are just beating up on everyone so far.

 

[Zee]

Or if you take away Toronto's record against Edmonton...

21-9-1 would still have the Leafs with the best point % in the division, whereas Edmonton and Montreal would be battling with Vancouver and Calgary for the final 2 playoff spots.

The Leafs have earned at least 60% of the available points against all 6 divisional opponents.

Just to expand on this, here are the 4 Northern playoff teams against the other 3 playoff teams:

Toronto: 13-4-2
Edmonton: 8-10-2
Winnipeg: 9-8-2
Montreal: 7-6-4

3 teams are clearly feasting on Vancouver, Calgary, and Ottawa, while the Leafs are just beating up on everyone so far.

Edmonton 17-4 against the non playoff teams.  They'd be fighting for their playoff lives without that.

 

[bustaheims]

Edmonton 17-4 against the non playoff teams.  They'd be fighting for their playoff lives without that.

Not significantly more than any of the others. They're all piling up points against the Flames, Nucks, and sens.

Winnipeg is 15-5-1, and Montreal is 10-5-5.

Leafs are 14-6-1 against the 3 non playoff teams, which is right around their point percentage overall.

 

[Zee]

Edmonton 17-4 against the non playoff teams.  They'd be fighting for their playoff lives without that.

Not significantly more than any of the others. They're all piling up points against the Flames, Nucks, and sens.

Winnipeg is 15-5-1, and Montreal is 10-5-5.

Leafs are 14-6-1 against the 3 non playoff teams, which is right around their point percentage overall.

I think it just shows how much better the Leafs are to have a very good record against the current playoff teams.  In a normal season all 3 of Edmonton, Winnipeg and Montreal wouldn't make the playoffs in their normal divisions.  (edit: not saying they would all miss the playoffs, I'm saying not all 3 would make it in together)

 

[Kin]

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1380551821991743494

KHL success to the NHL can be a hard thing to predict.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1380551821991743494

KHL success to the NHL can be a hard thing to predict.

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1380556784570621953
Or perhaps a play at a better fit/team opportunity

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1380551821991743494

KHL success to the NHL can be a hard thing to predict.

He did have 44 points in 66 games in his 1st NHL season last year though. And that was with a slow-ish start as he got used to the league: 8 points in first 20 games, 36 points in his last 46 games. Wonder if someone else takes a shot at him on a cheap deal for the rest of the season.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/1380551100734918665
This is fun

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I also wonder if this trend of terminating an expensive, hard-to-trade contract before the deadline so a player can find another team prior to the playoffs becomes a more regular thing. Buffalo of course did it with Bogosian last year, New Jersey here. Makes sense for both parties really.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

With Gusev gone Andreas Johnsson is now the oldest forward on New Jersey's roster. He's 26 years old. That's nuts.

Johnsson is also having a pretty terrible season there unfortunately. 3 goals and 8 points in 38 games.

 

[bustaheims]

He did have 44 points in 66 games in his 1st NHL season last year though. And that was with a slow-ish start as he got used to the league: 8 points in first 20 games, 36 points in his last 46 games. Wonder if someone else takes a shot at him on a cheap deal for the rest of the season.

If he could be assigned the taxi squad without waivers, he might have been a potentially interesting pickup for the Leafs to see if they could work with him the same way as they did with Galchenyuk. Unfortunately, since he'll have to sign a new contract, passing through unconditional waivers doesn't help there (I don't think).

 

[CarltonTheBear]

If he could be assigned the taxi squad without waivers, he might have been a potentially interesting pickup for the Leafs to see if they could work with him the same way as they did with Galchenyuk. Unfortunately, since he'll have to sign a new contract, passing through unconditional waivers doesn't help there (I don't think).

Yeah I was thinking if we didn't already have Gally he would have been a good pick-up to replace what we lost in Vesey and Boyd. Now though it probably doesn't make a ton of sense. There's also a lot less time to "rehab" him like we did with Gally.