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2020 Blue Jays General Season Thread

Nik said:
Frank E said:
Again though, still only 93000 cases confirmed in Florida.  They have a population of 21m.
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But wasn't there the whole thing of them firing the woman compiling the data because she was actually reporting the right numbers? I'm not sure official data from a state like Florida helps much right now.
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Right. They're underreporting like mad first of all. Trump said it himself in his half attended Tulsa rally that he asked States to stop counting as many. Second or all you aren't catching every case, you just confirm the test that came back positive. Some Epis are thinking we could be missing 90% of infections in Ontario. It's going to be at least that in Florida.

The odds of getting sick in Florida seem pretty good to me, especially if you hit a bar.
 
Bender said:
Nik said:
Frank E said:
Again though, still only 93000 cases confirmed in Florida.  They have a population of 21m.
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But wasn't there the whole thing of them firing the woman compiling the data because she was actually reporting the right numbers? I'm not sure official data from a state like Florida helps much right now.
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Right. They're underreporting like mad first of all. Trump said it himself in his half attended Tulsa rally that he asked States to stop counting as many. Second or all you aren't catching every case, you just confirm the test that came back positive. Some Epis are thinking we could be missing 90% of infections in Ontario. It's going to be at least that in Florida.

The odds of getting sick in Florida seem pretty good to me, especially if you hit a bar.
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Who thinks we're missing 90% of the cases in Ontario?
 
Frank E said:
Who thinks we're missing 90% of the cases in Ontario?
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For what it's worth if that were true there'd still only be an infection rate in the province of around 2%.

Anyways, I think the reason we're seeing more re: Athletes is a combination of things. They're still more likely than most to be working in groups, they're probably going out more than most people and being less careful and they're getting tested and having their health monitored way more than most people.
 
Frank E said:
Bender said:
Nik said:
Frank E said:
Again though, still only 93000 cases confirmed in Florida.  They have a population of 21m.
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But wasn't there the whole thing of them firing the woman compiling the data because she was actually reporting the right numbers? I'm not sure official data from a state like Florida helps much right now.
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Right. They're underreporting like mad first of all. Trump said it himself in his half attended Tulsa rally that he asked States to stop counting as many. Second or all you aren't catching every case, you just confirm the test that came back positive. Some Epis are thinking we could be missing 90% of infections in Ontario. It's going to be at least that in Florida.

The odds of getting sick in Florida seem pretty good to me, especially if you hit a bar.
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Who thinks we're missing 90% of the cases in Ontario?
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Off the top of my head Dr. Fisman. It works well in terms of working backwards IFR to 0.5-1% which is the going rate from NYC & Swedish seroprevalence studies. Also makes sense given not everyone with a mild case will get tested and there are known asymptomatic spreaders out there. There are likely more epis out there who hold the same view but it's 12:45 and I work tomorrow. We need sero testing to truly figure that part out like what they did in NYC.
 
Frank E said:
I actually think that the amount of sports players getting the virus is very shocking.  I can only assume that they're being quite flagrant with some of the new protocols, given none of them have had to go to work for months now.
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I really wanted to believe that professional athletes would be taking this seriously during all their various return to play stages, but then I read what just happened in the tennis world and yeah nevermind.
 
Frank E said:
So this MLB vs. PA is getting a little messy...
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Yeah, but this has been brewing for a while. It'll lead to a grievance from the union and then an extended labour issue next year.
 
herman said:
It looks like they sorted it out?
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Well, they "sorted it out" in as much as MLB will impose a schedule on the players and the players will file a grievance against the league saying they never negotiated in good faith and there's a ton of bad blood that will spill into the CBA negotiations but there may be official Major League baseball in a month.
 
They were talking that the Jays may just play out of Dunedin.

Would anyone care if the just played in Florida, since you can't go to the games anyways?

I wouldn't.
 
Frank E said:
They were talking that the Jays may just play out of Dunedin.

Would anyone care if the just played in Florida, since you can't go to the games anyways?

I wouldn't.
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I'm firmly in the "sports probably shouldn't be happening this year...particularly in cess pool states that use politics as a counter to epidemiology and medical recommendations.  So while I agree that there is no value of them playing in Toronto, I'm not particularly concerned about where they play.
 
Bender said:
https://twitter.com/robertbenzie/status/1277655877705764870

I want no part in this
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A number of players around the league seem to want to have no part in this season, either. At least 3 have already opted out, and I imagine more will be announced soon.
 
I just genuinely wonder how many deaths and potentially serious illnesses people are willing to accept to watch baseball for four months.
 
Nik said:
I just genuinely wonder how many deaths and potentially serious illnesses people are willing to accept to watch baseball for four months.
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Right. And at this point maybe most of the league has resigned themselves that they will get sick eventually but every person who doesn't consent to that is going to be collateral damage. And I mean, they'd have to pick a spot somewhere, and I'm being a bit selfish since I live here but this makes it even more stomach churning for me.
 
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