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2021-2022 NHL Thread

Since the 2nd lockout Giroux only has 4 playoff goals.  4G 14A 18P in 35GP

He's still a really good player and in a reduced role against inferior defensive units he could very well be a nightmare but yeah, that Panthers team already is scary.  I absolutely think that Tampa/Toronto could beat them in a 7 game series but I'd put the Panthers as the favourite against both teams.
 
In general, it seems anyone can beat anyone.  It?s so hard to predict whether adding a single guy will make any difference (unless it?s a hot goalie ? who you ?know? will stay hot).

I hate hockey. Basically, leaf?s should have done something last year.  This year, they may be better but are going to wind up an underdog in any round they play.
 
bustaheims said:
Should it, though? Florida is already the best offensive team in the league by a reasonable margin. At what point does adding more put them beyond the point of diminishing returns? I'm actually not sure adding Giroux makes them much scarier than they already are.

I mean, maybe. Don't think more goals could ever hurt though (heck they might need some just to balance out the Chiarot acquisition). And the LW spot on Barkov's line has been moving around a lot all season long it seems of if Giroux sticks there and gives him some consistency that could be big.

It's also kind of crazy just how much Florida have been scoring. Averaging 4.08 goals a game this season. No team has averaged more than 4 goals per game since the 95/96 Penguins who were at 4.41. The highest scoring team in the cap era before this was the 18/19 Lightning who were at 3.89.
 
So, is it possible they've determined that they may be in for a regression...so they're looking to acquire some additional firepower to help mitigate that?
 
Frank E said:
So, is it possible they've determined that they may be in for a regression...so they're looking to acquire some additional firepower to help mitigate that?

I don't really think any team plans around regression like that. It's probably more like "most of our team is having career seasons, let's ride the wave and go all in".
 
Expected goals isn't the be all stat but

Toronto - 224 GF 182 GA  vs. 215 EGF 170 EGA
Florida - 249 GF 176 GA    vs. 234 EGF 194 EGA

 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I mean Giroux on the Panthers should legitimately scare every team in the league.

Should it, though? Florida is already the best offensive team in the league by a reasonable margin. At what point does adding more put them beyond the point of diminishing returns? I'm actually not sure adding Giroux makes them much scarier than they already are.

Is it kind of like when Karyia signed in Colorado and many thought he?d light world on fire there and get 200 points and he completely flamed out? I don?t remember the circumstances though.
 
Joe S. said:
Is it kind of like when Karyia signed in Colorado and many thought he?d light world on fire there and get 200 points and he completely flamed out? I don?t remember the circumstances though.

Maybe. I dunno. There's only one puck and so much ice time available.
 
bustaheims said:
Joe S. said:
Is it kind of like when Karyia signed in Colorado and many thought he?d light world on fire there and get 200 points and he completely flamed out? I don?t remember the circumstances though.

Maybe. I dunno. There's only one puck and so much ice time available.

On an somewhat unrelated note I'd be very, very interested for a hockey analyst in this day and age to look back at that Avs season and try to figure out how exactly that went so wrong.

Back to this though, while there's only one puck you absolutely need 5 guys to get, keep, and create chances with it.

 
L K said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://theathletic.com/3190123/2022/03/17/16-stats-montreals-turnaround-blues-defying-analytics-and-torontos-inability-to-win-trap-games/ said:
1. Something I did not realize about Montreal?s wretched season: in 511 minutes, Brendan Gallagher has zero goals at five-on-five. Zero! Over the prior three seasons he was third in the league in five-on-five goals-per-60 at 1.46. At that rate, he should be closer to 12 goals. I get he lost Danault and has been injured, but zero goals in 511 minutes for someone who was previously a top-five scorer is absolutely ludicrous. It speaks to just how unlucky the Canadiens have been all season. It wasn?t all poor play sinking the team.

This is actually insane. At 5-on-5 0 goals and just 7 assists in 42 games for Gallagher this season. I had no idea his season was going THAT badly.

He's -9 in expected goals above expected.  That's worst in the NHL.
"Expected goals above expected" broke my brain.
 

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