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2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

CarltonTheBear said:
If the 21/22 season begins and Joshua Ho-Sang was the teams biggest offseason acquisition I promise I will personally start up People Against Dubas... but I think a lot of people need to remember it's not even July 1st yet on the NHL's typical offseason calendar.

Seriously. The UFA signing period hasn't even opened yet. The offseason is barely underway.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
If the 21/22 season begins and Joshua Ho-Sang was the teams biggest offseason acquisition I promise I will personally start up People Against Dubas... but I think a lot of people need to remember it's not even July 1st yet on the NHL's typical offseason calendar.

Yeah, I think it's the calendar expectation thing. But also seeing the flurry of moves other teams are making, makes people itchy.
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
If the 21/22 season begins and Joshua Ho-Sang was the teams biggest offseason acquisition I promise I will personally start up People Against Dubas... but I think a lot of people need to remember it's not even July 1st yet on the NHL's typical offseason calendar.

Yeah, I think it's the calendar expectation thing. But also seeing the flurry of moves other teams are making, makes people itchy.

It doesn't help that so far our net moves are losing Hyman to Edmonton and then trading for McCann and immediately losing him in the expansion draft.  Coming off a disappointing first round exit I think the optics around the team right now are that they aren't very good and they aren't doing a whole lot. 

When we sign buy low candidates to fill out the roster that probably isn't going to help things very much either as we just don't have the cap space to make a notable addition.
 
L K said:
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
If the 21/22 season begins and Joshua Ho-Sang was the teams biggest offseason acquisition I promise I will personally start up People Against Dubas... but I think a lot of people need to remember it's not even July 1st yet on the NHL's typical offseason calendar.

Hey, one of these scrap-heap acquisitions has to turn into a 35 goal scorer for the Leafs at some point no?  Maybe Ho-Sang is the chosen one!

Have we ever had that kind of player who exceeded expectations like that unexpectedly.  Maybe you can argue that for Hyman although he was more of a step-wise progression.  Who have we had that has gone from questionable to great player all in the span of a season?

Garry Valk: 3 pts with Pitts, 29 with Toronto. Boom!
 
Would Clarke MacArthur fall under that category?

Was a 35 point player, Atlanta walked away from his arbitration award, and he came to Toronto and put up 62 points in his first season.
 
L K said:
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
If the 21/22 season begins and Joshua Ho-Sang was the teams biggest offseason acquisition I promise I will personally start up People Against Dubas... but I think a lot of people need to remember it's not even July 1st yet on the NHL's typical offseason calendar.

Yeah, I think it's the calendar expectation thing. But also seeing the flurry of moves other teams are making, makes people itchy.

It doesn't help that so far our net moves are losing Hyman to Edmonton and then trading for McCann and immediately losing him in the expansion draft.  Coming off a disappointing first round exit I think the optics around the team right now are that they aren't very good and they aren't doing a whole lot. 

When we sign buy low candidates to fill out the roster that probably isn't going to help things very much either as we just don't have the cap space to make a notable addition.

I think I'm pretty unbothered about the 'inactivity' so far because I thought our roster (with the expected subtractions) is still pretty good to build off of. Keep some space open during the year by trying out the (younger and speedier) UFA cheapos, swing bigger at the deadline with space. Other than Buchnevich or Garland, there hasn't been anything that crossed the trade-wire that I wanted the Leafs to have any involvement in, and both of those, while nice cap hits in isolation, would not immediately fit here.

Other than the goalie, the existing roster gaps prior to free agency is not what will make or break this coming season. I think the key to success is continued development and improvements from the core, and better coaching deployment over the regular season: rebalance the top-6 minutes, put Nylander on PP1, develop 2-3 different play schemes (aggro-check, passive-counter, puck-holdy) and learn to flip between them.
 
Bullfrog said:
L K said:
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
If the 21/22 season begins and Joshua Ho-Sang was the teams biggest offseason acquisition I promise I will personally start up People Against Dubas... but I think a lot of people need to remember it's not even July 1st yet on the NHL's typical offseason calendar.

Hey, one of these scrap-heap acquisitions has to turn into a 35 goal scorer for the Leafs at some point no?  Maybe Ho-Sang is the chosen one!

Have we ever had that kind of player who exceeded expectations like that unexpectedly.  Maybe you can argue that for Hyman although he was more of a step-wise progression.  Who have we had that has gone from questionable to great player all in the span of a season?

Garry Valk: 3 pts with Pitts, 29 with Toronto. Boom!

I did like Gary Valk.

Yeah, MacArthur is probably a good example of a guy who thrived here for a couple of years.
 
Bullfrog said:
L K said:
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
If the 21/22 season begins and Joshua Ho-Sang was the teams biggest offseason acquisition I promise I will personally start up People Against Dubas... but I think a lot of people need to remember it's not even July 1st yet on the NHL's typical offseason calendar.

Hey, one of these scrap-heap acquisitions has to turn into a 35 goal scorer for the Leafs at some point no?  Maybe Ho-Sang is the chosen one!

Have we ever had that kind of player who exceeded expectations like that unexpectedly.  Maybe you can argue that for Hyman although he was more of a step-wise progression.  Who have we had that has gone from questionable to great player all in the span of a season?

Garry Valk: 3 pts with Pitts, 29 with Toronto. Boom!

Great post Frog, Garry Valk was a favourite of mine.
 
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1420363281080983553

Well the Leafs have now been connected to every goalie on the market apparently.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1420363281080983553

Well the Leafs have now been connected to every goalie on the market apparently.

Grubauer would be a huge addition, obviously, but one that I have to imagine would require some contract juggling.
 
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1420362344740306949
https://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod/status/1420365099110440960
 
Have to figure Galchenyuk was offered a million or so at most by Dubas if a new contract was offered at all. I don't blame him for looking elsewhere but I also wouldn't want to pay him more than that.
 

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