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2023 Training Camp Thread

Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Well, when is someone going to post vid of the revelries at Gravenhurst (wherever the hell that is ? it sounds like Winston Churchill's estate).

Somebody do something.

Wait, are you just trolling or have you not heard of Gravenhurst?

He's American.
 
Frank E said:
Is Keefe trolling with Nylander back on Tavares' wing?


EDIT:  McMann is back

https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1709629383550304652
Luke Fox needs a context bot
https://x.com/jonassiegel/status/1709630405345701894
https://twitter.com/dalter/status/1709629282362740790
 
Nice to see McMann healthy and with the main group. I doubt he makes the team after missing the start of camp and Gregor looking good, but at the same time that should also ease any little concerns I had about him on waivers.
 
I don't buy that Nylander to wing is to get Minten another game.  Minten could go on the wing to give Minten another game.  Tavares could go on the wing to give Minten another game.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nice to see McMann healthy and with the main group. I doubt he makes the team after missing the start of camp and Gregor looking good, but at the same time that should also ease any little concerns I had about him on waivers.
I'm keeping McMann over Gregor if it comes to that. I just think he has more offensive upside.
 
Guilt Trip said:
I'm keeping McMann over Gregor if it comes to that. I just think he has more offensive upside.

I like McMann and all, but Gregor is 2 years younger and has already shown an ability to finish at the NHL level. McMann's AHL shooting percentage of 20.4% last season is also unsustainable. A lot of his upside is smoke and mirrors.
 
bustaheims said:
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Well, when is someone going to post vid of the revelries at Gravenhurst (wherever the hell that is ? it sounds like Winston Churchill's estate).

Somebody do something.

Wait, are you just trolling or have you not heard of Gravenhurst?

He's American.

Guilty on all counts.  I'll just google it now.
 
Frank E said:
I don't buy that Nylander to wing is to get Minten another game.  Minten could go on the wing to give Minten another game.  Tavares could go on the wing to give Minten another game.

Heck, *I* could go to Tavares' wing* to give Minten another game.



*The guest wing of his 10,000-sq-ft house, that is.  Which might be in Gravenhurst, for all I know.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Frank E said:
I don't buy that Nylander to wing is to get Minten another game.  Minten could go on the wing to give Minten another game.  Tavares could go on the wing to give Minten another game.

Heck, *I* could go to Tavares' wing* to give Minten another game.



*The guest wing of his 10,000-sq-ft house, that is.  Which might be in Gravenhurst, for all I know.

His house is about 6000 sq-ft and a short drive from the Ford Performance Centre and ScotiaBank Arena. He does have a cottage in the Muskoka region, of which Gravenhurst is on the southern end.
 
bustaheims said:
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Well, when is someone going to post vid of the revelries at Gravenhurst (wherever the hell that is ? it sounds like Winston Churchill's estate).

Somebody do something.

Wait, are you just trolling or have you not heard of Gravenhurst?

He's American.
I live in Gravenhurst. They stay at the Muskoka Bay Club and golf. Last year they rented the historic steam ship for a cruise on Lake Muskoka. They're only here one night this year.  Kids' school got invited to the practice at the local rink which is a great experience for them. My guess is the public could not get near any party.

It's pretty wild, they setup a DJ in the rink to play while they practice, setup a media spot for interviews, have a camera section setup in the rink, decal all the boards, all for just a couple of practices. The rink will look pretty swanky for my Thursday night old-timer game.
 
bustaheims said:
Guilt Trip said:
I'm keeping McMann over Gregor if it comes to that. I just think he has more offensive upside.

I like McMann and all, but Gregor is 2 years younger and has already shown an ability to finish at the NHL level. McMann's AHL shooting percentage of 20.4% last season is also unsustainable. A lot of his upside is smoke and mirrors.

Gregor has the edge on speed, although McMcann isn't exactly slow.

McMann has the edge on size/hitz, although Gregor isn't exactly small or afraid to throw the body.

Gregor probably has more offensive ability while McMann can be more of a two-way guy. I originally thought Gregor's advertised defensive issues might make it tough for him to crack the line-up since the team will likely need the 4LW to PK but his speed/compete level should be enough to fit in with the teams kill structure.

I think both likely clear waivers at this point. So I'd be fine starting Gregor there and having McMann get the next chance if his performance dips. That also gives McMann more of a chance to get fully up to speed after spending the entire offseason still recovering from an injury.
 
herman said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Frank E said:
I don't buy that Nylander to wing is to get Minten another game.  Minten could go on the wing to give Minten another game.  Tavares could go on the wing to give Minten another game.

Heck, *I* could go to Tavares' wing* to give Minten another game.



*The guest wing of his 10,000-sq-ft house, that is.  Which might be in Gravenhurst, for all I know.

His house is about 6000 sq-ft and a short drive from the Ford Performance Centre and ScotiaBank Arena. He does have a cottage in the Muskoka region, of which Gravenhurst is on the southern end.

OK, I'll settle for his cottage then.  Anything to get Fraser reps.

I need to get out my Ontario map and key into this Muskoka Region thing.  Seeing the name dredges up unhappy memories of the Muskoka 5 BS and the rather ignominious end of Mats' Leafs career.
 
cabber24 said:
bustaheims said:
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Well, when is someone going to post vid of the revelries at Gravenhurst (wherever the hell that is ? it sounds like Winston Churchill's estate).

Somebody do something.

Wait, are you just trolling or have you not heard of Gravenhurst?

He's American.
I live in Gravenhurst. They stay at the Muskoka Bay Club and golf. Last year they rented the historic steam ship for a cruise on Lake Muskoka. They're only here one night this year.  Kids' school got invited to the practice at the local rink which is a great experience for them. My guess is the public could not get near any party.

It's pretty wild, they setup a DJ in the rink to play while they practice, setup a media spot for interviews, have a camera section setup in the rink, decal all the boards, all for just a couple of practices. The rink will look pretty swanky for my Thursday night old-timer game.

Thanks cabber.  All kidding aside, it sounds lovely.
 
bustaheims said:
Guilt Trip said:
I'm keeping McMann over Gregor if it comes to that. I just think he has more offensive upside.

I like McMann and all, but Gregor is 2 years younger and has already shown an ability to finish at the NHL level. McMann's AHL shooting percentage of 20.4% last season is also unsustainable. A lot of his upside is smoke and mirrors.
I simply like more of what I've  seen from McMann then Gregor. Should be interesting to see what the Leafs do by next week.
 
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