A thread speculating about possible lines? Already?!

[ZBBM]

it was entirely predictable that he would be hurt half the time.

But he played 70 games...

Pfft. Facts. That's like bringing up the fact he played at least 68 games in both of the previous seasons.

Like I've got time for those?  8) 8) 8)

Anyway, he sucked.  Refute THAT, you reality-slaves.

 

[Zee]

Carlyle talking live now.  Blah blah blah, hard work, important points in Jan..same old stuff

 

[bustaheims]

mirtle: Carlyle says JVR will play on the wing.

 

[maplesyrup]

mirtle: Carlyle says JVR will play on the wing.

Probably where he belongs. No point in robbing from Peter to give to Paul - Especially if Peter would be much better off than Paul would be.

- This concludes today's Chrissy Snow moment.

 

[Corn Flake]

mirtle: Carlyle says JVR will play on the wing.

Good. Now is not the time to mess around with experiments like JVR at centre.  Keep consistency wherever possible.

 

[maplesyrup]

Lance Hornby ‏@sunhornby

Carlyle: Van Riemsdyk will start on second line wing. D Paul Ranger not on radar because of contract. Rielly will stay if warranted.

Edit: I guess Mac gets bumped?

 

[Jalili]

Would like to see Holzer and Ranger as regulars on the blueline playing as steady efficient depth guys.

edit: nevermind about Ranger

 

[Corn Flake]

Edit: I guess Mac gets bumped?

Hopefully.

 

[Tigger]

mirtle: Carlyle says JVR will play on the wing.

Good. Now is not the time to mess around with experiments like JVR at centre.  Keep consistency wherever possible.

Speaking of experiments, I just don't think you're 'tossing' the salad correctly if you're trying to win friends, fwiw.

 

[Kin]

I don't understand the hate for Connolly and never will. We tried him out for one year with very few better options out there and his salary is gone in less than 6months. His signing had next to no negative impact unless you want to go down the road of what ifs, which could lead to any conclusion you want it to.

I can understand Komisarek but a guy on a relatively cheap 2yr deal? Jeez. People go on about this contract as if it were Jason Blake's.

I think we've become a little too obsessed with cap figures and salary structure when you don't understand the dislike for a guy when it's based on the fact that he played like crap.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I think Carlyle is in tough, too.  He came in at the tail-end of the last season with things in disarray and without much time to implement many new things, and now he still won't have much time to without a real training camp.

 

[Kin]

it was entirely predictable that he would be hurt half the time.

But he played 70 games...

Pfft. Facts. That's like bringing up the fact he played at least 68 games in both of the previous seasons.

A guy can be hurt and play. It would just make him play poorly which...

Hot damn, I think I've cracked this case wide open.

 

[Peter D.]

Lance Hornby ‏@sunhornby

Carlyle: Van Riemsdyk will start on second line wing. D Paul Ranger not on radar because of contract. Rielly will stay if warranted.

Edit: I guess Mac gets bumped?

Is it possible to get Ranger on a NHL contract or is he exclusively signed for the AHL this season?

 

[maplesyrup]

I'm not sure of the mechanics but I do know that however it works, he'd be exposed to waivers and would be a sure-fire gonner.

 

[bustaheims]

I'm not sure of the mechanics but I do know that however it works, he'd be exposed to waivers and would be a sure-fire gonner.

I'm not so sure he would be exposed to waivers. That rule really only applied to guys playing in European professional leagues that were signed mid-season. Re-entry waivers are no longer in play. I think the Leafs could actually sign him and add him to the roster without any issues. It would really depend on how these things are dealt with in the new CBA, which, right now, we just don't know.

 

[maplesyrup]

I'm not sure of the mechanics but I do know that however it works, he'd be exposed to waivers and would be a sure-fire gonner.

I'm not so sure he would be exposed to waivers. That rule really only applied to guys playing in European professional leagues that were signed mid-season. Re-entry waivers are no longer in play. I think the Leafs could actually sign him and add him to the roster without any issues. It would really depend on how these things are dealt with in the new CBA, which, right now, we just don't know.

Somebody on the radio (I can't remember who) said it would/could be a waiver problem. If they're wrong, my apologies.

 

[Bender]

mirtle: Carlyle says JVR will play on the wing.

Good. Now is not the time to mess around with experiments like JVR at centre.  Keep consistency wherever possible.

Speaking of experiments, I just don't think you're 'tossing' the salad correctly if you're trying to win friends, fwiw.

It doesn't matter how you toss it because you don't win friends with salad.

 

[bustaheims]

Somebody on the radio (I can't remember who) said it would/could be a waiver problem. If they're wrong, my apologies.

My guess is they're working off the old rules (and, possibly, a misunderstanding of the old rules). We really don't know if waivers would even play into the situation under the new CBA.

 

[maplesyrup]

Lance Hornby ‏@sunhornby
Carlyle thinking about 30 players for camp, with emphasis on conditioning. Marlies on AHL deals such as Paul Ranger might have to wait.

So why do they have to wait then? Maybe they'd just prefer to not sign him to a NHL deal?

 

[bustaheims]

Lance Hornby ‏@sunhornby
Carlyle thinking about 30 players for camp, with emphasis on conditioning. Marlies on AHL deals such as Paul Ranger might have to wait.

So why do they have to wait then? Maybe they'd just prefer to not sign him to a NHL deal?

Well, for one, guys can't be signed right now - the lockout is still in effect. On top of that, the Marlies still need to be able to ice a roster. The Leafs aren't going to strip their roster mid-season to bring every potential player to training camp. The Leafs also don't have a ton of reserve list spots available - assuming it stays at 50 under the new CBA.