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Armchair GM 2016-2017

I wonder who would take JVR if half of his salary is retained?  could they get hanifin out of carolina?  I still think that trouba out of winnipeg is more of a pipe dream.

what if they packaged JVR at 2.1 million with their first round pick and kapanen/leipsic/dermott?

that looks like a pretty darn good package but I just don't know if there is anyone who would be worth that available.
 
I don't really know that eating half of JVR's final year adds a ton to his value. Anyone trading for him is going to want to re-sign him and he's probably due for a significant raise.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I don't really know that eating half of JVR's final year adds a ton to his value. Anyone trading for him is going to want to re-sign him and he's probably due for a significant raise.
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maybe, but a team like carolina who have the cap space to resign him but money makes a difference might want savings this year and still be able to sign him long term.

also that could be a reason to include younger pieces in a package because it becomes a rental for JVR with longer term pieces in picks and prospects.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I don't really know that eating half of JVR's final year adds a ton to his value. Anyone trading for him is going to want to re-sign him and he's probably due for a significant raise.
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It might open up the market to teams that are particularly strapped for cap space in 17/18, but have room from 18/19 on - so, some quality assets that may not have been available could be in play. That could have some impact on negotiations, but, probably still doesn't add much to what other teams would be willing to give up for him.
 
sneakyray said:
maybe, but a team like carolina who have the cap space to resign him but money makes a difference might want savings this year and still be able to sign him long term.
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Sure but then let's say JVR gets a deal in the neighbourhood of what Okposo got(7 years, 42 million). Is JVR at 8 years and 44.1 million considerably more valuable than JVR at 8 years and 46.2?

Busta is right that it may open some more teams up but you're still ultimately talking about a fairly minor difference.
 
Unofficial (multiple choice) poll time:

[] Pony up for Shattenkirk (7M+)
[] Trade whatever (south of Nylander/Marner) for Josh Manson/Jonas Brodin
[] 2-3 years of Brendan Smith at 3M
[] 1-2 years of Cody Franson at 1.75-2M
[] Do nothing
 
I'm still going with option 6. Target teams looking to be competitive now and going after some of their Draft +1 or Draft +2 defensive prospects. Philly, Anaheim, Nashville...
 
Nik the Trik said:
I'm still going with option 6. Target teams looking to be competitive now and going after some of their Draft +1 or Draft +2 defensive prospects. Philly, Anaheim, Nashville...
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I'd be looking to do this every year we have a non-core expiring contract.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I'm still going with option 6. Target teams looking to be competitive now and going after some of their Draft +1 or Draft +2 defensive prospects. Philly, Anaheim, Nashville...
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100% this, JVR at 2.2 is a major asset for teams relatively tight to the cap and in win now mode.
 
herman said:
Unofficial (multiple choice) poll time:

[] Pony up for Shattenkirk (7M+)
[] Trade whatever (south of Nylander/Marner) for Josh Manson/Jonas Brodin
[] 2-3 years of Brendan Smith at 3M
[] 1-2 years of Cody Franson at 1.75-2M
[] Do nothing
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Any interest in Brandon Montour? He's a real smooth skater. He's the guy I'd target instead of Manson. I guess you could say he's more of the same with Rielly and Gardiner but I like him.
 
Dappleganger said:
Any interest in Brandon Montour? He's a real smooth skater. He's the guy I'd target instead of Manson. I guess you could say he's more of the same with Rielly and Gardiner but I like him.
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He's exempt from the expansion draft, so it'd take more than I'd be interested in giving to acquire him at this time.
 
herman said:
He's exempt from the expansion draft, so it'd take more than I'd be interested in giving to acquire him at this time.
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And, yet, you include giving up the farm for Josh Manson in your list of possible options...
 
bustaheims said:
herman said:
He's exempt from the expansion draft, so it'd take more than I'd be interested in giving to acquire him at this time.
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And, yet, you include giving up the farm for Josh Manson in your list of possible options...
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Seemed like a lower threshold to fulfillment. If Anaheim is stupid, I'd be down for Lindholm.
 
herman said:
Seemed like a lower threshold to fulfillment. If Anaheim is stupid, I'd be down for Lindholm.
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Lindholm, I'm down with. Manson? That there is a prime overpayment option.

EDIT: I'm much more interested in exploring the rumours that Justin Faulk may be available...
 
bustaheims said:
herman said:
Seemed like a lower threshold to fulfillment. If Anaheim is stupid, I'd be down for Lindholm.
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Lindholm, I'm down with. Manson? That there is a prime overpayment option.

EDIT: I'm much more interested in exploring the rumours that Justin Faulk may be available...
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Hm, I am seeing chatter that Anaheim values Manson quite significantly (but they also do the same for Lindholm and Fowler, and obviously their ducklings in Theodore and Montour).

I looked up the HERO chart for Justin Falk accidentally.

Justin Faulk does sound intriguing... 25 years old, 37 pts the last two seasons in a row, 4.83M AAV until 2019-20 seems like it would hit a few sweet spots...
 
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/7/15568890/toronto-maple-leafs-evgeni-dadonov-nhl-free-agent-target-khl-vadim-shipachev-evgeny-russia

Colour me intrigued to see a potential Dado - Papi - Nylander line.
 
herman said:
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/7/15568890/toronto-maple-leafs-evgeni-dadonov-nhl-free-agent-target-khl-vadim-shipachev-evgeny-russia

Colour me intrigued to see a potential Dado - Papi - Nylander line.
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Just to be critical of your hypothetical line configuration here...wouldn't that line be lacking in defensive prowess?
 
Frank E said:
herman said:
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/7/15568890/toronto-maple-leafs-evgeni-dadonov-nhl-free-agent-target-khl-vadim-shipachev-evgeny-russia

Colour me intrigued to see a potential Dado - Papi - Nylander line.
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Just to be critical of your hypothetical line configuration here...wouldn't that line be lacking in defensive prowess?
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Traditionally speaking, maybe. Matthews and Nylander are exceptional pickpockets. Dadonov, Nylander, and Matthews are all exceptional zone entry machines. Back them up with a cycle breaker on defense if you must, but I don't really see a problem with having the puck nearly all the time.
 
herman said:
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/7/15568890/toronto-maple-leafs-evgeni-dadonov-nhl-free-agent-target-khl-vadim-shipachev-evgeny-russia

Colour me intrigued to see a potential Dado - Papi - Nylander line.
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Definitely going to come down to price on this one. If he's asking near what Shipachev got, I'd be inclined to pass. If he's willing to come over on a cheaper short-term "show me" type deal, I'd go for it.
 
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