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Armchair GM 2018-2019

CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
Wait now Ryan O?Rielly is being shopped by the Sabres? Tavares consolation prize!

For other teams after we sign Tavares, sure.
Nik the Trik said:
Yeah, Buffalo would almost certainly give the Leafs a really sweet deal on that one.

I'm with this.  I'd rather go the Tavares route since it involves nothing but money rather than trying to trade with a team in your own division who will do you no favors.

(I don't think we're getting either player)
 
RO'R was destined to be traded once he told the media he lost his love for the game because of the Sabres' situation, not after he drunkenly rammed his car into a donut shop and walked away from the scene.

Carolina might take a big swing on him, as they're not going to be able to afford Tavares dollars, but have lots of pieces they apparently want to get rid of because of all that pent up trade-rage from years of Francis' inactivity.
 
herman said:
Carolina might take a big swing on him, as they're not going to be able to afford Tavares dollars, but have lots of pieces they apparently want to get rid of because of all that pent up trade-rage from years of Francis' inactivity.

Something revolving around Hanifin for ROR would probably suit both teams pretty well.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
Carolina might take a big swing on him, as they're not going to be able to afford Tavares dollars, but have lots of pieces they apparently want to get rid of because of all that pent up trade-rage from years of Francis' inactivity.

Something revolving around Hanifin for ROR would probably suit both teams pretty well.

https://www.diebytheblade.com/2018/6/5/17428356/examining-carolina-hurricanes-as-a-potential-trade-partner-for-ryan-oreilly-buffalo-sabres

So they've already fired up the articles about this, aside from picking the wrong players to target.
 
herman said:
So they've already fired up the articles about this, aside from picking the wrong players to target.

I just read the bit in that article about how they wrote Hanifin probably wouldn't be on the table because of ROR's cap hit. I don't think Sabres fans understand how good O'Reilly is.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
So they've already fired up the articles about this, aside from picking the wrong players to target.

I just read the bit in that article about how they wrote Hanifin probably wouldn't be on the table because of ROR's cap hit. I don't think Sabres fans understand how good O'Reilly is.

Semi-hoping their management group also doesn't understand.
 
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
Wait now Ryan O?Rielly is being shopped by the Sabres? Tavares consolation prize!

For other teams after we sign Tavares, sure.
Nik the Trik said:
Yeah, Buffalo would almost certainly give the Leafs a really sweet deal on that one.

I'm with this.  I'd rather go the Tavares route since it involves nothing but money rather than trying to trade with a team in your own division who will do you no favors.

(I don't think we're getting either player)
I wouldn't be giving up non-cash assets for forward help. I would for defensive help though.

I think Buf should do everything in their power to make this guy happy and keep him. He plays a tonne and takes more faceoffs then anyone.
 
https://twitter.com/charlieo_conn/status/1004378557424992256

Who is it for Leafs fans?  Kapanen?  Brown?  Nylander?
 
louisstamos said:
Who is it for Leafs fans?  Kapanen?  Brown?  Nylander?

One of Brown or Kapanen, yeah. I think a lot of people would balk at trading Nylander unless something huge was coming back.
 
He expands on what he means by "line" a little more here:

https://twitter.com/charlieo_conn/status/1004378804717064194
https://twitter.com/charlieo_conn/status/1004379324617777152

So I think for us Kapanen and Johnsson would be above the "Hagg line" (i.e. they're available players but we don't want to trade them even if it could help our team) while Brown is below it.
 
Elliotte Friedman noted that the Leafs are searching for a 3C in his latest 31 Thoughts.

Nic Petan's agent all but said his client needs a change of scenery. He's a LW/C on the smaller side, but a very skilled and creative playmaker, mired for the past two seasons either to the 4th line with Chris Thorburn (their lesser Matt Martin) and Brandon Tanev (stonier hands than Hyman), or the press box.

petanni95


Honestly, I'm not even sure what Matthews could've done with those two.

https://jetsnation.ca/2017/10/02/time-for-the-jets-to-do-right-by-nic-petan/

Jets are looking for LD, of which we have plenty. If they're looking for a defensive 4th line centre, Frederic Gauthier fits the bill.
 
PPP is suggesting the Leafs chase Skinner from the 'Canes.

The suggestion is a first and a decent prospect...for one year of Skinner at $5.75m.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, but that seems like a lot, given his contract status, given he's a UFA after this coming season.

The stated rationale is that the Leafs likely won't be able to land a strong centre or defenseman with that kind of package, and therefore they should be in on Skinner.  I'm kind of thinking that if the Leafs don't really need help at the wing, then just keep the pick and prospect until they can find a deal for a d-man or C that they need.
 
Bullfrog said:
So, no Bozak?


;)
Jason Spezza could be a decent C assuming he gets bought out?

Apparently, DUBINSKY is a buyout candidate as well.

I think either would be a decent replacement of Bozak and the term and dollars should be manageable.
 
https://twitter.com/KatsHockey/status/1007424812602593281

I'm not Gus, but I'm pretty sure I've said this thread before.
 
herman said:
I'm not Gus, but I'm pretty sure I've said this thread before.

I don't mean to be too critical here, but define "#3"...and then tell me how you accumulate 6 of them.
 
Frank E said:
I don't mean to be too critical here, but define "#3"...and then tell me how you accumulate 6 of them.

Good defensemen that aren't Hedman/Doughty/Karlsson-money can be drafted and developed quite readily without lottery picks. Dermott and Liljegren are projected for that range of potential and Liljegren has the ceiling to exceed it. Honestly, Zaitsev qualifies too (#4) and is only derided for the contract he was signed to. We're already sitting on Rielly and Gardiner who are on the upper end of that 2nd tier offensively.
 
herman said:
Frank E said:
I don't mean to be too critical here, but define "#3"...and then tell me how you accumulate 6 of them.

Good defensemen that aren't Hedman/Doughty/Karlsson-money can be drafted and developed quite readily without lottery picks. Dermott and Liljegren are projected for that range of potential and Liljegren has the ceiling to exceed it. Honestly, Zaitsev qualifies too (#4) and is only derided for the contract he was signed to. We're already sitting on Rielly and Gardiner who are on the upper end of that 2nd tier offensively.

I think there's a cap allocation program there though, right?

I mean, you can put $10m into a guy that plays 25 mins a night, and skimp on your bottom pairing.  But icing a corps of 6 X $4m-$5m puts you in ~$27m tied up in defense.

And this is exacerbated by the fact that this strategy has to include "putting your resources into high skill forwards", which then will mean more $$ tied up in forwards.
 

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