Blue Jays Hot Stove Thread

[Highlander]

The starting rotation will most likely be some combination of :

Roark/Tehran/Shoemaker
Chase Andersen
Thornton
Kay
Zeuch
Waguespack

This is not promising. 

Atkins won't have a chance at any of the big arms Stras, Cole, Wheeler so he'll have to settle for the 2nd or 3rd tier pitchers.  A better way to shore up the rotation is via trade.

I'd like them to take a shot at Calhoun.  He can play all 3 outfield positions and he can be had for round $7MM.

Borucki could be a part of that as well if he can get his health in order.

Don't think we are going to have to wait too long to add Pearson to the list. Kay may surprise as well. I liked his stuff in the few games he played in September.

 

[itsgametime]

The starting rotation will most likely be some combination of :

Roark/Tehran/Shoemaker
Chase Andersen
Thornton
Kay
Zeuch
Waguespack

This is not promising. 

Atkins won't have a chance at any of the big arms Stras, Cole, Wheeler so he'll have to settle for the 2nd or 3rd tier pitchers.  A better way to shore up the rotation is via trade.

I'd like them to take a shot at Calhoun.  He can play all 3 outfield positions and he can be had for round $7MM.

Borucki could be a part of that as well if he can get his health in order.

Don't think we are going to have to wait too long to add Pearson to the list. Kay may surprise as well. I liked his stuff in the few games he played in September.

Pearson is the 2nd best pitching prospect in baseball so can't wait for him to arrive.  Still though we will need 2 more legit starters.  Like Stroman - lol

 

[Highlander]

The starting rotation will most likely be some combination of :

Roark/Tehran/Shoemaker
Chase Andersen
Thornton
Kay
Zeuch
Waguespack

This is not promising. 

Atkins won't have a chance at any of the big arms Stras, Cole, Wheeler so he'll have to settle for the 2nd or 3rd tier pitchers.  A better way to shore up the rotation is via trade.

I'd like them to take a shot at Calhoun.  He can play all 3 outfield positions and he can be had for round $7MM.

Borucki could be a part of that as well if he can get his health in order.

Don't think we are going to have to wait too long to add Pearson to the list. Kay may surprise as well. I liked his stuff in the few games he played in September.

Pearson is the 2nd best pitching prospect in baseball so can't wait for him to arrive.  Still though we will need 2 more legit starters.  Like Stroman - lol

2 bad about the Strobro but dat is da game...Sanchez looks like he is going the way of the Dodo.  To bad about his problems.  Jays have Pearson and Manoah who is projected to be another beast and several other good arms in the pipeline. I know the pitching is coming like the cavalry, maybe not fast enough to save this years wagon train but 2021 looks a lot better.

 

[Frank E]

Is anyone advocating signing a top-tier pitcher to a bananas contract like Cole even as a defensive measure so that Boston and the Yankees don't get stacked again?

 

[Kin]

Is anyone advocating signing a top-tier pitcher to a bananas contract like Cole even as a defensive measure so that Boston and the Yankees don't get stacked again?

That's not really practical. With the resources those teams have there's always going to be someone they'll be able to spend money on.

 

[dappleganger]

Is anyone advocating signing a top-tier pitcher to a bananas contract like Cole even as a defensive measure so that Boston and the Yankees don't get stacked again?

That's not really practical. With the resources those teams have there's always going to be someone they'll be able to spend money on.

Very few guys in the history of baseball have been good for 9 straight years. Let the Yankees deal with the contract after it goes sideways. Yankees have the dough to do that. The Jays do not.

 

[Kin]

Very few guys in the history of baseball have been good for 9 straight years. Let the Yankees deal with the contract after it goes sideways. Yankees have the dough to do that. The Jays do not.

I think that's well said. It's not just that the Yankees have the ability to pay a pitcher 36 million a year, it's that if they only get 4 or 5 good years out of Cole they can chalk it up as a win and just eat the rest as a sunk cost.

 

[Highlander]

Very few guys in the history of baseball have been good for 9 straight years. Let the Yankees deal with the contract after it goes sideways. Yankees have the dough to do that. The Jays do not.

I think that's well said. It's not just that the Yankees have the ability to pay a pitcher 36 million a year, it's that if they only get 4 or 5 good years out of Cole they can chalk it up as a win and just eat the rest as a sunk cost.

True dat! Jays need Dubas to come over and negotiate the big money contracts.

 

[Deebo]

Jays add SP Tanner Roark, 24/2

 

[Frank E]

Jays add SP Tanner Roark, 24/2

Are we happy with this addition?

 

[Kin]

Good signing, I think. A #3/4 guy but a solid inning eater.

 

[bustaheims]

A little pricier than I expected him to go for (I figured closer to $10M per) but a solid and reliable middle to back of the rotation guy.

 

[dappleganger]

I like the signing. Now sign Keuchel, and one of Teheran or Miley and we?re set.

 

[L K]

A little pricier than I expected him to go for (I figured closer to $10M per) but a solid and reliable middle to back of the rotation guy.

I mean every pitcher is getting overpaid at this point.  The rotation needed help and he's a decent option.  I'm still hoping they can come to an agreement with Ryu but I see him more likely staying in California.

 

[Highlander]

A little pricier than I expected him to go for (I figured closer to $10M per) but a solid and reliable middle to back of the rotation guy.

Its a real solid signing (pundits where calling for 18M for two, so the deal is still very OK). 

So if Pearson can make a successful jump and Shoemaker plays like he did until his injury then we may have a solid, yet unspectacular starting rotation.  The money being paid to some of the top line pitchers is insane and not a route the Jays should take.  As Nik posted they have to build from within.

 

[Highlander]

After some further review and a misreading in an article from this AM,  I am not that enthralled by the signing.  We did overpay, although it seems if you can throw a ball over a plate, that you get over 4M a year.  Rourke is 33 and perhaps should have rated at 6 to 8M a year.
His HR count at the end of last year was atrocious.  Hope our outfielders have springs on their shoes so they can jump higher than the fence...a lot higher than the fence.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Happ?  Encarnacion?

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[Highlander]

Happ?  Encarnacion?

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https://www.thestar.com/sports/blue_jays_baseball_blog/2019/12/10/blue-jays-need-more-than-pitching-at-mlb-s-winter-meetings.html

Edwin come home.  Jay Hapless, not so much!

 

[Captain Canuck]

I'm okay with Roark as a #3 starter, but not as our ace. He'll at least help prevent the rotation become a revolving door as he should stay healthy and eat a lot of innings.
Hopefully there is still another higher caliber starter added to the mix for next season. I'd like Ryu as well, but not sure he'd come to Toronto.

 

[Highlander]

Great thing about Jays baseball to me. I don't take it seriously (unless they make the playoffs-unlikely), its a great time-wasting, relaxing, time to have a few beers, a burger or doggie, and listen to the dulcet tones of Buck droning me into a semi catatonic happy place, where even neighbour's lawn mowers can't piss me off.  Win or lose, no problem.

Now with the Leafs....