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CarltonTheBear said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Or not, since he like Cujo played when the game was considerably different.

But yeah, sure, it's a fine disinction.  Still, a valid one.

Tim Thomas won the Conn Smythe and set a modern day save percentage record at the age of 37 just a few years ago.

I get the idea that a reflex goalie could lose his reflexes as he ages, but even if that's true Reimer's only 27 years old so we're probably a ways away from that potentially happening.

With a superior defense in front of him, superior to any we are likely to put in front of Reimer.

I just think the odds are much better with a positional guy.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
He played well into, but not well, well-into.

It's different because it's different because it's different because I said so.

Kind of like declaring someone the greatest of all time.  You said so.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nik the Trik said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
He played well into, but not well, well-into.

It's different because it's different because it's different because I said so.

Kind of like declaring someone the greatest of all time.  You said so.

Woah, woah, woah. Hasek = GOAT isn't an opinion, it's fact.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nik the Trik said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
He played well into, but not well, well-into.

It's different because it's different because it's different because I said so.

Kind of like declaring someone the greatest of all time.  You said so.

Woah, woah, woah. Hasek = GOAT isn't an opinion, it's fact.

Sorry, but my fact is factier than Nik's fact.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Or not, since he like Cujo played when the game was considerably different.

But yeah, sure, it's a fine disinction.  Still, a valid one.

That's very much open to debate, as we've seen here with this very debate.

Personally, I don't think there's much of a difference. Also, it's not like "reactionary" goalies can't learn to become "positional" goalies. I mean, Eddie Belfour started his career very much as a more reactionary goalie, and ended it as a very sound positional one. Playing a positional style can be learned. Reaction time, reflexes, etc., can't. I'd much rather start with a goalie who can react to plays quickly and teach to hone his positional play, than start with a guy who relies on positional play from the beginning.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Kind of like declaring someone the greatest of all time.  You said so.

You are dying on some unimpressive hills.

Better to perish in the Uplands of Truth than on the Plains of Hyperbole.  Bury me not, I beg you, on that lone prair-ree.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Or not, since he like Cujo played when the game was considerably different.

But yeah, sure, it's a fine disinction.  Still, a valid one.

That's very much open to debate, as we've seen here with this very debate.

Personally, I don't think there's much of a difference. Also, it's not like "reactionary" goalies can't learn to become "positional" goalies. I mean, Eddie Belfour started his career very much as a more reactionary goalie, and ended it as a very sound positional one. Playing a positional style can be learned. Reaction time, reflexes, etc., can't. I'd much rather start with a goalie who can react to plays quickly and teach to hone his positional play, than start with a guy who relies on positional play from the beginning.

You're dissing Bernier, aren't you?  AREN'T YOU??
 
I just want to point out that for the purposes of this discussion I am not including Hasek as a reactionary/reflex goalie.  Therefore, Felix Potvin remains the greatest reflex goalie of all time.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Better to perish in the Uplands of Truth than on the Plains of Hyperbole.  Bury me not, I beg you, on that lone prair-ree.

Alas, poor Yorick. He just didn't want to let the bear have that fish.
 
Potvin29 said:
I just want to point out that for the purposes of this discussion I am not including Hasek as a reactionary/reflex goalie.  Therefore, Felix Potvin remains the greatest reflex goalie of all time.

On this, you and I agree.  If I could bring back one player to today's squad it would be Sundin.  If I could bring back two, the second would be Potvin.  Side note: funny that their names should rhyme, eh?  8) :o ;) :P :-X
 
CarltonTheBear said:
We're only a few posts away from eclipsing the total number of replies on Saturday's GDT haha

Good.  Now I won't have cause to complain about it, bad-temperedly, as I did Sat nite.

And, to continue bringing the thread back to the topic at hand, for the record, Boston can suck it.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You're dissing Bernier, aren't you?  AREN'T YOU??

As a South African ex-pat, his ignorance about Nelson Mandela forever tainted my view of him.

Are you saying that Mandela wasn't a positional guy?
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You're dissing Bernier, aren't you?  AREN'T YOU??

As a South African ex-pat, his ignorance about Nelson Mandela forever tainted my view of him.

After all these years, we're still learning things about each other.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You're dissing Bernier, aren't you?  AREN'T YOU??

As a South African ex-pat, his ignorance about Nelson Mandela forever tainted my view of him.

Are you saying that Mandela wasn't a positional guy?

Mandela was highly adaptive and used a number of different styles.
 
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You're dissing Bernier, aren't you?  AREN'T YOU??

As a South African ex-pat, his ignorance about Nelson Mandela forever tainted my view of him.

After all these years, we're still learning things about each other.

Gotta keep my ability to surprise. I'm not just gonna put it all out there. I'm gonna make you work for it.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You're dissing Bernier, aren't you?  AREN'T YOU??

As a South African ex-pat, his ignorance about Nelson Mandela forever tainted my view of him.

Are you saying that Mandela wasn't a positional guy?

Mandela was highly adaptive and used a number of different styles.

So true.  Anyone who did 27 years on Robben Island and came out an even better man had to be adaptive.
 

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