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Carlyle Extended/Randy's Revenge

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What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

But yeah:

@APetrielli 

So in a terrible conference where the Leafs lost 8 straight to tank in March with a cap team+playoff calibre roster nobody's getting canned?

Didn't Carlyle say at the end of the year that he didn't know how to fix it/what the solutions were? Or something to that effect?
 
After his parting shots at his last presser, I was sure he was gone. No one throws players like that under the bus (unless you are Torts).
 
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Hope_Smoke: Dreger on TSN Radio "no news on Carlyle,  but I'll day it's eerily quiet coming out of Vegas."

Hope_Smoke: Dreger "if Carlyle isn't in Vegas, & the team refuses to answer whether he is or isn't, maybe you can read tea leaves as to why he isn't"

Hope_Smoke: Have to figure Dreger is pretty frustrated that he is getting frozen out by the Leafs after having a direct pipeline for so long.

I've seen a lot from this guy, but who's Hope_Smoke?

Basically a miserable jerk but saves everyone from having to listen to radio shows all the time.
 
It makes sense from Shanahan's perspective. The team is deeply flawed, there won't be a quick turnaround so why put himself on the hot-seat immediately by bringing in all of "his people" when people see they're not magicians either?
 
freer said:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=451611

Damn it!... Carlyle to stay. :P

This may just be TSN running with a story out of frustration in order to flesh out the truth. Shanny's kept a tighter lid on this than the media is used to. Let's run a story saying Randy is staying and see if we get a denial.
 
Potvin29 said:
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
Hope_Smoke: Dreger on TSN Radio "no news on Carlyle,  but I'll day it's eerily quiet coming out of Vegas."

Hope_Smoke: Dreger "if Carlyle isn't in Vegas, & the team refuses to answer whether he is or isn't, maybe you can read tea leaves as to why he isn't"

Hope_Smoke: Have to figure Dreger is pretty frustrated that he is getting frozen out by the Leafs after having a direct pipeline for so long.

I've seen a lot from this guy, but who's Hope_Smoke?

Basically a miserable jerk but saves everyone from having to listen to radio shows all the time.

You and Busta describe him nicely: his own thoughts are pretty amateurish.  The only reason I read his tweets are because he transcribes the radio stuff.
 
Damien Cox @DamoSpin
BREAKING NEWS: Maple Leafs will announce coaching decisions in next hour. As I've said, I'm expecting Randy Carlyle to stay. We'll see.
 
I don't buy it. The talk is that he's not with the team for their current scouting meetings in Vegas. If they intended to keep him, he'd be there and they wouldn't be hemming and hawing about whether or not he's with them.
 
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger  41s
I believe Carlyle was in Vegas with the Leafs brass for a portion of meetings and was told he would be brought back.
 
If he's staying, not sure I'll watch until he gets fired.

That's not to say there are better options right now or that Shanny should even do it (as others are saying why bring in his guys while the team is still so suspect talent-wise) but I just have zero confidence that Carlyle can turn the team around.

The whole collapse and after the only reason to watch was to laugh at just how bad things had gotten.  I can't go into a new season like that.
 
bustaheims said:
I don't buy it. The talk is that he's not with the team for their current scouting meetings in Vegas. If they intended to keep him, he'd be there and they wouldn't be hemming and hawing about whether or not he's with them.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 4m
I believe Carlyle was in Vegas with the Leafs brass for a portion of meetings and was told he would be brought back.
 
Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin  16s
NHL sources now saying Carlyle will be returning, but not rest of the staff.  Waiting for Leaf confirmation shortly.

steve simmons ‏@simmonssteve  10m
BREAKING: In addition to the coaching announcement, expect Leaf changes to staff and other hockey operation changes.

steve simmons ‏@simmonssteve  3m
Would be shocked if assistant coaches Greg Cronin and Scott Gordon return to Leafs. Don't know about Dave Farrish. Don't know what else up.
 
Deebo said:
Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin  16s
NHL sources now saying Carlyle will be returning, but not rest of the staff.  Waiting for Leaf confirmation shortly.

steve simmons ‏@simmonssteve  10m
BREAKING: In addition to the coaching announcement, expect Leaf changes to staff and other hockey operation changes.

steve simmons ‏@simmonssteve  3m
Would be shocked if assistant coaches Greg Cronin and Scott Gordon return to Leafs. Don't know about Dave Farrish. Don't know what else up.

See?  It was all the assistants fault.
 
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