bustaheims said:
Called it. I'm glad you were able to remain convinced until the very end though
Carlyle Extended/Randy's Revenge
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Called it. I'm glad you were able to remain convinced until the very end though
Stickytape
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pmrules said:
The only untouchable players are Orr and MacLaren.
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CarltonTheBear said:bustaheims said:
Called it. I'm glad you were able to remain convinced until the very end though
I remain vigilant in my belief that the Leafs are somehow just trolling the fan base and Carlyle will still be gone before training camp. That's what I'm going with now.
In all honesty, though, I'll be shocked if he makes it to the end of the upcoming season. I mean, unless Shanahan's plan is to tank the team and he's really just using Nonis and Carlyle as convenient patsies.
Wendel's Fist
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I wouldn't be surprised if I saw Rod Serling somewhere today, smoking a cigarette and waving at me.
Has there been a formal announcement about ticket prices going up yet or is that still coming? Randy ain't "working" for free, damn it.
Has there been a formal announcement about ticket prices going up yet or is that still coming? Randy ain't "working" for free, damn it.
The talent on the Leafs is not generationally bad, but when you have a coach who's numbers in almost all areas have gone down over the last five years, isn't open to hearing new ideas on analytics, can't understand anything that has occurred in the last season, and coaches a team to generationally poor numbers... and there is a reward??
It gives me hope that one day I can fail upward too!
It gives me hope that one day I can fail upward too!
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Wendel's Fist said:
I just flew back into the city, and am pretty sure I saw Randy out on the wing grinning and pulling up panels.
Well, as a Leaf fan for 40+ years I'd like to say I'm surprised... Only the Leafs would hire assistant coaches, then hire the coach, then hire the GM and then follow up with hiring a president.
Given that Shanahan, et. al are looking for a culture change and have decided to remain (mostly) status quo, I'm guessing that change will come about via player changes. And given that most of our boat anchors are completely immovable, we may see player like Gardiner and Kadri change teams.
So everyone get ready for another year of swarming our own net and rolling 2.5 lines, and 3 minutes a night for our prospects. The good news is McLaren has been benched by the Marlies, so he'll be fresh and ready to go next season.
Rant over (sorry)
bustaheims
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The more I think about it, the more I think Shanahan left this decision largely in the hands of Nonis. I think this was basically Shanny telling Nonis that this is his chance to choose his coach, and that Nonis' fate is now really strongly tied to that of Carlyle . . . and I think that worries me more than simply having Carlyle back.
bustaheims said:
I'm trying to think of positives here. I think at least now if the team struggles next season it means that both Carlyle and Nonis could be gone, because like you said they are now linked more than ever. If Shanny/Nonis fired Carlyle now and brought in a new coach I think that would have given Nonis some more stability.
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I have to think that Shanny understands that this could certainly blow up in his face, so I'm assuming that a significant roster shake-up is planned, for better or worse.
He'd be the laughing stock of the league if he went into next December in 25th place with more or less the same roster...so we'll see if they try to stack up for another playoff run, or if they dial back for futures.
He'd be the laughing stock of the league if he went into next December in 25th place with more or less the same roster...so we'll see if they try to stack up for another playoff run, or if they dial back for futures.
Stickytape
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I want to believe that there was just some confusion between "re-sign" and "resign". Yes, that's all this was. I'll wake up tomorrow and it will all be fixed.
MetalRaven
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This is a sad and depressing day all around
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2014/5/8/5695978/randy-carlyles-work-in-toronto-a-retrospective
dont read if you've had or are planning to have dark thoughts and warn your doctor if these thoughts persist
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2014/5/8/5695978/randy-carlyles-work-in-toronto-a-retrospective
dont read if you've had or are planning to have dark thoughts and warn your doctor if these thoughts persist
#1PilarFan
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Wow.
I've got a feeling that Nonis likes the team the way it is, doesn't see any problem with the possession numbers or shots against and feels like they just need another kick at the can. The core of this team is pretty much set and there's not a lot of flexibility.
So, we get to see the same mediocre coach and the same mediocre players next year finish with the same mediocre results. I hope I'm wrong, but Nonis hasn't really shown an ability to do anything but maintain the status quo.
I've got a feeling that Nonis likes the team the way it is, doesn't see any problem with the possession numbers or shots against and feels like they just need another kick at the can. The core of this team is pretty much set and there's not a lot of flexibility.
So, we get to see the same mediocre coach and the same mediocre players next year finish with the same mediocre results. I hope I'm wrong, but Nonis hasn't really shown an ability to do anything but maintain the status quo.
GhostofPotvin29
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Well, let the speculation begin:
Can't say I know much about potential assistant coaching hires.
Can't say I know much about potential assistant coaching hires.
pnjunction
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Unbelievable. Loser organization rewards losing.
How is next year's draft looking? I don't think it will be long before we're flipping the standings upside down and looking at them that way.
How is next year's draft looking? I don't think it will be long before we're flipping the standings upside down and looking at them that way.
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