Guru Tugginmypuddah
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Dappleganger said:
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Paul Marner.
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Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Paul Marner.
Guilt Trip
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I don't know what all those numbers mean but I always said, while Marner is all kinds of good, JT has had a major hand in Marner's success this year. Should be an interesting negotiation.Guru Tugginmypuddah said:Dappleganger said:
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Paul Marner.
hockeyfan1
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Marner is the superstar here. Assists at even strength:
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hockeyfan1
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Who is Mitchell Marner? A Maple Leaf and a genuinely sincere person, unlike some others:
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This is probably obvious: On the center vs winger argument, the reason centers get paid more is that they are doing more in the defensive zone and they typically have more of an impact getting the puck out of the defensive zone. This kind of impact isn?t captured in individual points scored. So the argument that Mitch is scoring lots of points so he should be treated like a center seems to miss at one of the main reasons centers and wingers are compensated differently.
OldTimeHockey
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There's also that thing called taking faceoffs and what winning them actually means to your team's possession of the puck
Phileas Fogg
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OldTimeHockey said:
Someone needs to explain this faceoff stat to me, and why it's so valuable.
From what I can see, there's only about 10 players in the league that have a faceoff stat higher than 5 points above a 50/50 shot at winning the draw, and the top 3 guys only get you about 6 or 7 points higher than 50/50.
So why is faceoff prowess so meaningful? It appears to me to be only a few players get you slightly better results than luck.
bustaheims
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Frycer14 said:
It's an over-rated stat. I mean, obviously, winning the face-off is better than not winning, but, there's minimal correlation between face-off success and overall success. The top 10 teams in the league in FO% includes 6 teams that currently hold playoff spots (one just barely) and 4 that don't. Of the 4 that don't, 3 are in the bottom 5 in the league. The bottom 10 is pretty similar, just reversed - 3 playoff teams, 7 non-playoff teams - but 4 of those non-playoff teams are within 4 points of a spot. Tampa Bat, the best team in the NHL? 11th in face-offs at 50.7%. Ottawa, the worst? 16th at an even 50.0%.
What's more important than winning the face-off is what happens basically immediately after - and wingers can influence that a lot - often more directly than the guy who took the draw. Not to mention the fact that a good percentage of face-off wins are "winger wins," where the Cs tie each other up and let their linemate pull the puck loose.
Highlander
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Very simple explanation for why Centres make more than wingers. Face-offs are one, however this is important, on any line there is only one Centre and two wingers, thus making the Centre almost twice as important. That is why they pay me the big money. 