Coronavirus

[Highlander]

Well that might work.

Reminds me of the joke, "wake up, it's time for your sleeping pill".  Or in the Philippines, shoot first, ask questions....never.

 

[Kin]

I don't know how the media reporting is looking over there, but I'm starting to get annoyed with media here, it's like they're all looking for the youngest people who have died. The headlines here everyday is pretty much related to that, and people are getting very worried about that. I think that the media should at least make it clear how unusual it is that young people die in this disease. It may not serve public health to do what they do now. Yes, it's important to be careful and have respect for this virus and follow recommendations and rules, but I also think we need some perspective.

I think the issue there is that the more young people feel as though there's no huge risk to them the more likely they are to break some of the rules which not only endangers them but the older/sicker people they might come into contact with.

Likewise, it's important to not just talk about this as it relates to death. Young people are at less risk of dying but they can still get very sick, require hospitalization and take resources needed for more at risk people. Especially now that there's talk of rationing care and trying to decide who would get treatment vs. someone else.

 

[Kin]

One of the most difficult things for me right now is just the extent to which this whole thing has just permeated my every thought. I went on ESPN and they were grading NFL free agent signings and, I don't know, it felt bizarrely obscene. Like, I know sports leagues still went on during WW2 and other big conflicts and I know that Football writers still have a job to do but it's just so hard for me to imagine anyone out there being able to think about whether or not the Chicago Bears paid a good price for their new strong side safety.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

One of the most difficult things for me right now is just the extent to which this whole thing has just permeated my every thought. I went on ESPN and they were grading NFL free agent signings and, I don't know, it felt bizarrely obscene. Like, I know sports leagues still went on during WW2 and other big conflicts and I know that Football writers still have a job to do but it's just so hard for me to imagine anyone out there being able to think about whether or not the Chicago Bears paid a good price for their new strong side safety.

Do you not feel that a distraction is sometimes needed in times like this?

 

[Kin]

Do you not feel that a distraction is sometimes needed in times like this?

Oh absolutely. I wasn't saying anyone was wrong for doing it. Like i said, what's tough for me is the way it's permeated my thoughts. If someone else is able to distract themselves with that stuff I don't begrudge it at all. I envy it. It just feels like dispatches from another universe to me right now.

edit: Although i guess my use of "obscene" implies some moral judgement. Fair enough. I suppose I more meant it in the sense of being excessive.

 

[Arn]

Do you not feel that a distraction is sometimes needed in times like this?

Oh absolutely. I wasn't saying anyone was wrong for doing it. Like i said, what's tough for me is the way it's permeated my thoughts. If someone else is able to distract themselves with that stuff I don't begrudge it at all. I envy it. It just feels like dispatches from another universe to me right now.

I agree. The English premier league is apparently having talks tomorrow about playing the remainder of this season in China behind closed doors in empty stadia with no fans, after it became apparent they won?t be able to do that in the uk itself any time soon.

I think that?s just wrong tbh in the current climate and is being entirely driven by economics and greed. They don?t want to have to refund the TV companies lost income for them not getting a full slate of matches.

Not that we didn?t know it already, but it?s just further proof that football clubs aren?t the old representative of society they were and have pretty much sold their souls.

I would have watched live sport pretty much every day if there was something on, football, hockey, rugby, cricket, baseball, whatever. A month down the line I really haven?t missed it as yet in all honesty.

 

[hockeyfan1]

The story on hospital ER visits:  they?ve significantly subsided due to fear of COVID-19...

?Emergency volumes have plummeted all over the country,? said Dr. Daniel Kalla, the head of the emergency department at St. Paul?s Hospital, in downtown Vancouver. ?People are so fearful of hospitals, understandably,? he said. They just aren?t coming in.

Quiet ERs could be a sign that social isolation is working. Fewer people out in the world mean fewer car crashes, drunken brawls and other scourges of the ER. But doctors warn it could also foreshadow a significant problem to come.

?We?re certainly hearing stories of people with abdominal pains and chest pains and all sorts of bad symptoms, like stroke symptoms, who are just not coming to the hospital because they?re too afraid,? said Belchetz. ?It?s actually somewhat of a tragedy.?

For some emergency medicine doctors, meanwhile, the slowdown in admissions has created something of an unexpected lull right before what could be the most harrowing stretch of their careers. ?Very fortunately, we haven?t seen this big surge in the super sick, which we were prepared for, and have been expecting,? said Kalla. ?God willing, we?ll never see it, but the next two weeks will tell.?

https://nationalpost.com/news/eerily-quiet-ers-before-covid-19-surge-could-mean-problems-down-the-road-doctors-say#click=https://t.co/yiqRg0083M

 

[hockeyfan1]

Much talk has been made about Bill Gates and his philanthropic interest in aiding against the Coronavirus pandemic.  A closer scrutiny of his foundation (& other foundations owned by billionaires such as Warren Buffet)) show enormous conflicts of interest.  Just who are these foundations really helping?


https://www.thenation.com/article/society/bill-gates-foundation-philanthropy/

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Do you not feel that a distraction is sometimes needed in times like this?

Oh absolutely. I wasn't saying anyone was wrong for doing it. Like i said, what's tough for me is the way it's permeated my thoughts. If someone else is able to distract themselves with that stuff I don't begrudge it at all. I envy it. It just feels like dispatches from another universe to me right now.

I also feel as though the NFL has carried on like nothing is happening. They are the league less effected by this. For instance, I don't really care that Tom Brady is renting someone elses house in Tampa. That is not news.
What I have enjoyed is the classic sports. I watched about 6 innings of the Jays game last night. I haven't watched 6 innings of a Jays game in years. I watched a good chunk of the Flames beating the Habs in the 89 finals.
I personally think it's only healthy that people decompress. I can only read the news for so long before going into a deep depression.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Oh boy does this speak volumes!

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[TML fan]

I don't mind waiting in line at a grocery store. I do mind the family of four, or the young couple kissing and holding hands in the line when their policy clearly states 1 person only, and then letting them both inside anyway.

If you're not going to enforce rules or policy, what's the point?

 

[WAYNEINIONA]

We have not been out of the house for over a week. I finally decided to make a grocery store run yesterday. I had a list to get that should last for two weeks. There were numerous couples shopping and I watched a woman buying bananas pick up 8 different bunches and put them back. I finally asked her from a safe distance if she intended to touch them all.She scowled at me took the ones in her hand and walked up to the checkout line. that was the only thing she bought.

 

[princedpw]

Oh boy does this speak volumes!

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One of the points in that quote is not like the others.

Sending PPE to other nations, in this case, China when they need it, is charitable, generous and moral.  It may well have saved lives.  It may also have reduced transmission within China and then subsequently to the rest of the world, including Canada.  In general, selfish behavior in which resources are hoarded and saved for the future instead of used "now" is highly globally suboptimal.  In contrast, altruism, which we hope will be reciprocated is the best way to fight this.

 

[princedpw]

We have not been out of the house for over a week. I finally decided to make a grocery store run yesterday. I had a list to get that should last for two weeks. There were numerous couples shopping and I watched a woman buying bananas pick up 8 different bunches and put them back. I finally asked her from a safe distance if she intended to touch them all.She scowled at me took the ones in her hand and walked up to the checkout line. that was the only thing she bought.

I'm glad you made the comment and absorbed the scowl.  She sucks.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

We have not been out of the house for over a week. I finally decided to make a grocery store run yesterday. I had a list to get that should last for two weeks. There were numerous couples shopping and I watched a woman buying bananas pick up 8 different bunches and put them back. I finally asked her from a safe distance if she intended to touch them all.She scowled at me took the ones in her hand and walked up to the checkout line. that was the only thing she bought.

I like banana bread as much as the next person, but it hardly warrants a specific trip to the grocery store right now.

 

[Deebo]

We have not been out of the house for over a week. I finally decided to make a grocery store run yesterday. I had a list to get that should last for two weeks. There were numerous couples shopping and I watched a woman buying bananas pick up 8 different bunches and put them back. I finally asked her from a safe distance if she intended to touch them all.She scowled at me took the ones in her hand and walked up to the checkout line. that was the only thing she bought.

I like banana bread as much as the next person, but it hardly warrants a specific trip to the grocery store right now.

Someone going to the grocery store to buy one item of that nature would suggest they aren't taking this whole thing seriously as probably has been potentially exposing themselves to on a regular basis. Those are the people I would be afraid of getting close to.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Someone going to the grocery store to buy one item of that nature would suggest they aren't taking this whole thing seriously as probably has been potentially exposing themselves to on a regular basis. Those are the people I would be afraid of getting close to.

There's still too many people who think they can find "loopholes" in the idea of social/physical distancing.

 

[Highlander]

We have not been out of the house for over a week. I finally decided to make a grocery store run yesterday. I had a list to get that should last for two weeks. There were numerous couples shopping and I watched a woman buying bananas pick up 8 different bunches and put them back. I finally asked her from a safe distance if she intended to touch them all.She scowled at me took the ones in her hand and walked up to the checkout line. that was the only thing she bought.

My wife was at the local supermarket with her homemade mask and latex gloves slathered up with Purcell and there was a man touching every single pepper on the shelve with his bare.  She didn't say what Wayne said but she also didn't buy the pepper she was intending to buy.  Why are people so damn ignorant?

 

[Highlander]

Much talk has been made about Bill Gates and his philanthropic interest in aiding against the Coronavirus pandemic.  A closer scrutiny of his foundation (& other foundations owned by billionaires such as Warren Buffet)) show enormous conflicts of interest.  Just who are these foundations really helping?


https://www.thenation.com/article/society/bill-gates-foundation-philanthropy/

This is the same Bill Gates that in a 2015 TED talk warned of the coronavirus saying that it would not be nuclear conflict that we had to worry about, but a virus that looked exactly like the picture Bill pulled out in his talk.  He also pulled out pictures of masks, plastic shields, ventilators, gloves and field beds.  Warned us that this would be on us in 5 to 10 years.  I guess world leaders where listening as they signed contracts for billion dollar warplanes etc.

 

[Highlander]

A second for some perspective here:  Approx. 22,000 Canadians die each month based upon 2019 figures.  I had 6 friends and family die just before Coronvirus arrived in force.  This happened in a 3 week span.  Two died from Cancer, one a heart attack, 3 from old age/dementia.  Yet if they had died after exposure to Coronavirus would they have died from Coronavirus or natural causes?