Coronavirus

[L K]

I think, at least for the time being that masks should be compulsory while inside any inside business space or transportation, they are proving that this one precaution can save transmission rates by huge percentages.
I just spoke to a good friend in Miami and he said they are having such a high spike there they are thinking about closing some things down again. He thinks the real problem is that people there think that a switch was thrown and everyone are back to acting like idiots as usual, shoulder to shoulder with no masks in bars etc.
Here in BC there is an enforced SD in bars/resto's which is keeping people apart and relatively safe.

That's always going to be the issue.  Opening things up is confused for "go back to normal".  We aren't back to normal.  You need to take precautions.  Do you need to wear a mask in your house, backyard or even walking your dog...certainly not for the first two, most likely not for the last one unless you walk your dog in a massively busy area where you are constantly bumping into people. 

Should you be wearing a mask in public spaces and stores.  Absolutely. 

The number of "my oxygen goes down with a mask" nonsense drabble I'm hearing is getting insulting.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I think, at least for the time being that masks should be compulsory while inside any inside business space or transportation, they are proving that this one precaution can save transmission rates by huge percentages.
I just spoke to a good friend in Miami and he said they are having such a high spike there they are thinking about closing some things down again. He thinks the real problem is that people there think that a switch was thrown and everyone are back to acting like idiots as usual, shoulder to shoulder with no masks in bars etc.
Here in BC there is an enforced SD in bars/resto's which is keeping people apart and relatively safe.

That's always going to be the issue.  Opening things up is confused for "go back to normal".  We aren't back to normal.  You need to take precautions.  Do you need to wear a mask in your house, backyard or even walking your dog...certainly not for the first two, most likely not for the last one unless you walk your dog in a massively busy area where you are constantly bumping into people. 

Should you be wearing a mask in public spaces and stores.  Absolutely. 

The number of "my oxygen goes down with a mask" nonsense drabble I'm hearing is getting insulting.

Want to hear/watch something fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FccYqcAL4FM

 

[Bender]

https://twitter.com/Pabably/status/1272704614060744704

It was called Billy and the Cloneasaurus.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/Pabably/status/1272704614060744704

It was called Billy and the Cloneasaurus.

Thank you, come again.

 

[Bender]

There's a great resto out in Thornbury  (don't want to say the name), great spot and very good food. Their pizza is at another level.. A good friend was out picking up an order the other night and the owner said that another 30 days of lockdown and she was going out of business.

We have been open in BC for at least a month or more now without significant rises in Covid cases.  I certainly hope at least some of the outlying areas outside of T.O. with low Covid rates are allowed to re-open with proper social distancing of course.

Im honestly highly curious what businesses would've done during a deep, prolonged recession. Like during a non-COVID recession if 50% capacity lasted for 2yrs or whatever. Restos run on the thinnest of margins as it is.

 

[Bender]

I think, at least for the time being that masks should be compulsory while inside any inside business space or transportation, they are proving that this one precaution can save transmission rates by huge percentages.
I just spoke to a good friend in Miami and he said they are having such a high spike there they are thinking about closing some things down again. He thinks the real problem is that people there think that a switch was thrown and everyone are back to acting like idiots as usual, shoulder to shoulder with no masks in bars etc.
Here in BC there is an enforced SD in bars/resto's which is keeping people apart and relatively safe.

That's always going to be the issue.  Opening things up is confused for "go back to normal".  We aren't back to normal.  You need to take precautions.  Do you need to wear a mask in your house, backyard or even walking your dog...certainly not for the first two, most likely not for the last one unless you walk your dog in a massively busy area where you are constantly bumping into people. 

Should you be wearing a mask in public spaces and stores.  Absolutely. 

The number of "my oxygen goes down with a mask" nonsense drabble I'm hearing is getting insulting.

It's so comical. How do they think docs/nurses/hygenists & all other people who work with/near hazardous particles do it? Especially people with strenuous & laborious physical labour jobs that require masking? Like grow the hell up.

 

[L K]

I think, at least for the time being that masks should be compulsory while inside any inside business space or transportation, they are proving that this one precaution can save transmission rates by huge percentages.
I just spoke to a good friend in Miami and he said they are having such a high spike there they are thinking about closing some things down again. He thinks the real problem is that people there think that a switch was thrown and everyone are back to acting like idiots as usual, shoulder to shoulder with no masks in bars etc.
Here in BC there is an enforced SD in bars/resto's which is keeping people apart and relatively safe.

That's always going to be the issue.  Opening things up is confused for "go back to normal".  We aren't back to normal.  You need to take precautions.  Do you need to wear a mask in your house, backyard or even walking your dog...certainly not for the first two, most likely not for the last one unless you walk your dog in a massively busy area where you are constantly bumping into people. 

Should you be wearing a mask in public spaces and stores.  Absolutely. 

The number of "my oxygen goes down with a mask" nonsense drabble I'm hearing is getting insulting.

It's so comical. How do they think docs/nurses/hygenists & all other people who work with/near hazardous particles do it? Especially people with strenuous & laborious physical labour jobs that require masking? Like grow the hell up.

And just to be clear, there are studies that do suggest your SpO2 can go down with prolonged mask use.  There have been a few studies looking at surgeons in the OR and O2 sats can go down slightly with prolonged surgeries.  But we are talking about taking an SpO2 of 97% on room air and dropping it to 96.  It's clinically irrelevant.

There are absolutely persons with profound anxieties or advanced COPD who will struggle more with a mask.  We also aren't asking those people to wear a mask for 24 hours on end.  Wearing a mask for an hour while you do groceries...while you have alternatives like order ahead, delivery or having a friend/family member/neighbour get them for you, is just absurd.

It also doesn't help that the biggest proponents of 'no mask' are the "Sovereign Citizen" whackjobs.

 

[Highlander]

There's a great resto out in Thornbury  (don't want to say the name), great spot and very good food. Their pizza is at another level.. A good friend was out picking up an order the other night and the owner said that another 30 days of lockdown and she was going out of business.

We have been open in BC for at least a month or more now without significant rises in Covid cases.  I certainly hope at least some of the outlying areas outside of T.O. with low Covid rates are allowed to re-open with proper social distancing of course.

Im honestly highly curious what businesses would've done during a deep, prolonged recession. Like during a non-COVID recession if 50% capacity lasted for 2yrs or whatever. Restos run on the thinnest of margins as it is.

I have a copyright on the use of the word; "Resto's",  please cease and desist from using it....it's mine! 

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

I can't find the original post, I think it was Bender's, about the wide prevalence of covid-19 versus the number of confirmed diagnoses, but very much on that topic and to his point:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/25/coronavirus-live-updates-us/

"Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, estimated Thursday that for every confirmed coronavirus case, there are possibly 10 more that are undiagnosed. He also estimated that 92 to 95 percent of the U.S. population is still susceptible to the virus, and said that young people are driving the recent surge in cases in parts of the South and West."

 

[Highlander]

The company I am affiliated with just received the marketing rights for Covid-19 kits. These are the kits that take a drop of blood and results are in 15 minutes. The tell you if your currently have *Covid or have had it by showing antibody's.  We only have US approval at this point but would love to get Canadian approval.
If any one can be of assistance in advice on proper channels I would appreciate it. I know LK and several others here are working in the medical field. 
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

I predict great success for a biotech company who's business plan to address regulatory frameworks is by asking for help on hockey boards.

 

[Kin]

My advice is to stop treating the board like it's craigslist.

 

[Highlander]

I predict great success for a biotech company who's business plan to address regulatory frameworks is by asking for help on hockey boards.

I predict great success for a biotech company who's business plan to address regulatory frameworks is by asking for help on hockey boards.

Thanks for your usual amount of condensation and snarkiness, must be taking some lessons from Nik.  I virtually know no on in Canada, I spent a lot of years out of here.  This is a US concern so they are not interested in Canada. I am.  LK and others seem to have some knowledge of this system and may be of assistance in a channel or contact. In my life I have learned to turn over every stone.  You are making assumptions that the President of some large corp may lurk on this site. You just don't know, do you?

 

[Highlander]

My advice is to stop treating the board like it's craigslist.

I don't want or need your frikken advice. We should be more civil on this board, are we not hear to try and assist each other?  I would gladly help any of you.  By the way this is non hockey chatter.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Florida just announced 8,942 new cases today and Texas is starting to close certain things again.

On the flip side Ontario announced just 111 cases, the lowest number in over 3 months.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1276143355659841536

 

[Frank E]

You cannot escape God, herman.

 

[Kin]

Ontario's bounced around a lot this week from over 200 to today's pretty encouraging 111(and with 30k+ tests done as well).

I just hope people remember that this is a result of diligence and needs to be kept up. Realistically, being in as close proximity to the States as we are, we're never going to get to be as confident as New Zealand or somewhere like that and will need to be vigilant until a vaccine or treatment is found.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Ontario's bounced around a lot this week from over 200 to today's pretty encouraging 111(and with 30k+ tests done as well).

I wanted to note, someone who has been tracking this stuff (@imgrund) thinks this might be another case of some data that wasn't added quickly enough to Ontario's numbers. This happened the last time we had a pretty drastic decrease too. Apparently the individual Public Health Units are reporting a total of 179 case.

 

[Frank E]

Ontario's bounced around a lot this week from over 200 to today's pretty encouraging 111(and with 30k+ tests done as well).

I wanted to note, someone who has been tracking this stuff (@imgrund) thinks this might be another case of some data that wasn't added quickly enough to Ontario's numbers. This happened the last time we had a pretty drastic decrease too. Apparently the individual Public Health Units are reporting a total of 179 case.

You cannot escape God, Carlton.