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Patrick said:
How long does Stephen Weiss have left on his deal?
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How long does Stephen Weiss have left on his deal?
Chev-boyar-sky
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Patrick said:
If it were Mantha, Pulkkinen and a 1st I'd do it in a heartbeat.
That would signal a 5 year re-build, which would be fine with everyone I think.
Patrick said:
Nah, low ceiling and high bust-potential there.
Chev-boyar-sky
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Patrick said:
The way I see it, if Tinordi reaches his potential he'll be what Polak is now so I'd have no interest in that deal.
Nik the Trik said:
Who knows, somebody might pay up. But in general I agree. Wait for the offseason on that one. I'd also be curious to see how potentially winning the lottery would effect the Leafs rebuilding plans. I'd still be game for wanting to move a lot of pieces out, but in that (unlikely) situation I'm not sure Phil would be one of them.
Nik the Trik said:
There might be some at MLSE who would like to strangle him for his part in where they find themselves in the standings right now.
But I agree that right now they'd be selling low on him. They can afford to be patient.
Phaneuf ... I don't think they have that problem with him ... he is what he is and he isn't likely to get any better or hit a real high
Just a reminder as at some point I'm probably going to have to do some work today, please post any completed trades in the transactions board. This thread is great for any lead-up to deals, but it's nice to have a place where you can sort through confirmed trades and see everything that happened in one glance.
Bill_Berg
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Nik the Trik said:
I guess the theory is that other teams are desperate to acquire a guy like Kessel for a run at the Cup this year. So maybe a team, or one of two teams, may over pay at trade deadline day, but in the off season you'll have multiple teams willing to pay fair market value, or maybe even bid against one another.
Push hard to trade him to a sucker now, but wait till the summer if you don't find that sucker.
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Bill_Berg said:
I just don't think what we've seen in recent years bears that out as a realistic possibility. We've seen teams overpay for rentals, sure, but even the most desperate team in the league won't ignore that if they're trading for Kessel they're making a 7+ year commitment that needs sober second thought.
Nik the Trik said:
I don't think recent struggles will effect his trade value.
I also think there are plenty of teams that could make room for Kessel by sending 2-3M back in a deal. I don't think the Leafs rush it, but I think there might be teams that are willing to give a up a good package now so they could add Kessel now rather than the offseason so they have him an additional playoff run.
If they are working hard to get it done today, then I would have to think there have been recent discussions with some teams that involve packages that are close to something that the leafs would accept. If they get offered what they are looking for today, I don't see why they wouldn't do it. If you have 2-3 teams interested in making a deal before 3:00, then I think it is possible to get a good return today.
Players like Kessel usually don't move at the deadline, but this year is far from normal with the field being so wide open.
At the beginning of the season most people's three top contenders were probably Chicago, LA and Boston. All three are vulnerable now and I'd be hard pressed to pick even two or three cup favourites right now. It really seems like it could be anybody's year, and I think a lot of teams realize that.
If a team like Nashville or St Louis feel like a top scorer could put them over the top I think they do it and risk regretting it later.
At the beginning of the season most people's three top contenders were probably Chicago, LA and Boston. All three are vulnerable now and I'd be hard pressed to pick even two or three cup favourites right now. It really seems like it could be anybody's year, and I think a lot of teams realize that.
If a team like Nashville or St Louis feel like a top scorer could put them over the top I think they do it and risk regretting it later.
I don't think you can trade Kessel without knowing if the Leafs won the lottery. That's the only reason I would wait until the off-season. If by some miracle we won the lottery, there would be no high end talented wingers for McDavid to play with if we were to trade Kessel today. That, along with a potential higher return, is why I would wait on Kessel until the off-season.