Ex-Leafs: Kaberle's day with the Cup

[cw]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=603525
Defenseman Tomas Kaberle, who signed to a three-year, $12.75 million contract by GM Jim Rutherford during the summer, has just 5 assists, a minus-10 rating and was a healthy scratch for Sunday's game against the Ottawa Senators.

Eric Staal -17, Pitkanen -11, LaRose -11 - more going on here than Kaberle's problems

 

[Zee]

Or Kaberle could just be on the decline.  He's turning 34 this season.

 

[cw]

Or Kaberle could just be on the decline.  He's turning 34 this season.

That's possible and at the very least, likely to be a potential factor. I felt his skating had declined some before he left Toronto. But it's not like his body got pounded or he's had a lot of serious injuries. My guess continues to be that something else is going on. A change seemed to happen mid season and it was later revealed a family issue was going on.

 

[Zee]

Or Kaberle could just be on the decline.  He's turning 34 this season.

That's possible and at the very least, likely to be a potential factor. I felt his skating had declined some before he left Toronto. But it's not like his body got pounded or he's had a lot of serious injuries. My guess continues to be that something else is going on. A change seemed to happen mid season and it was later revealed a family issue was going on.

Didn't know about that.

 

[riff raff]

There are many who believe that Kaberle hasn't been the same since the Janssen hit.

 

[Bullfrog]

There are also many who think it has nothing to do with it.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Kypreos on Hockeycentral just now saying folks in Carolina believe Kaberle is overweight and out of shape. Unless there is some medical reason for this, I'd say he just isn't into playing hockey at the level we were used to seeing him play at.

I assume he just didn't train as hard in the summer after winning the Cup.  Reached the pinnacle and all that, it's human nature I suppose.

Jim Rutherford flat out admitted that Kaberle did not come to training camp in shape, and attributed it to winning the Stanley Cup and not preparing himself during the summer:

http://www.xmhomeice.com/onair_audio/11-11-30%20Jim%20Rutherford%20.mp3

 

[maplesyrup]

Kypreos on Hockeycentral just now saying folks in Carolina believe Kaberle is overweight and out of shape. Unless there is some medical reason for this, I'd say he just isn't into playing hockey at the level we were used to seeing him play at.

I assume he just didn't train as hard in the summer after winning the Cup.  Reached the pinnacle and all that, it's human nature I suppose.

Jim Rutherford flat out admitted that Kaberle did not come to training camp in shape, and attributed it to winning the Stanley Cup and not preparing himself during the summer:

http://www.xmhomeice.com/onair_audio/11-11-30%20Jim%20Rutherford%20.mp3

It's really too bad to see him (Kaberle) do that.

 

[Zee]

Kypreos on Hockeycentral just now saying folks in Carolina believe Kaberle is overweight and out of shape. Unless there is some medical reason for this, I'd say he just isn't into playing hockey at the level we were used to seeing him play at.

I assume he just didn't train as hard in the summer after winning the Cup.  Reached the pinnacle and all that, it's human nature I suppose.

Jim Rutherford flat out admitted that Kaberle did not come to training camp in shape, and attributed it to winning the Stanley Cup and not preparing himself during the summer:

http://www.xmhomeice.com/onair_audio/11-11-30%20Jim%20Rutherford%20.mp3

It's really too bad to see him (Kaberle) do that.

Vindicated!

 

[Joe S.]

Kypreos on Hockeycentral just now saying folks in Carolina believe Kaberle is overweight and out of shape. Unless there is some medical reason for this, I'd say he just isn't into playing hockey at the level we were used to seeing him play at.

I assume he just didn't train as hard in the summer after winning the Cup.  Reached the pinnacle and all that, it's human nature I suppose.

Jim Rutherford flat out admitted that Kaberle did not come to training camp in shape, and attributed it to winning the Stanley Cup and not preparing himself during the summer:

http://www.xmhomeice.com/onair_audio/11-11-30%20Jim%20Rutherford%20.mp3

Didn't he do that one season as well with the Leafs? I seem to remember this happening before.

 

[Tigger]

Cue the Tomas Flaberle rituals...

 

[maplesyrup]

Cue the Tomas Flaberle rituals...

... The chunkoslovakian.

 

[cw]

Kypreos on Hockeycentral just now saying folks in Carolina believe Kaberle is overweight and out of shape. Unless there is some medical reason for this, I'd say he just isn't into playing hockey at the level we were used to seeing him play at.

I assume he just didn't train as hard in the summer after winning the Cup.  Reached the pinnacle and all that, it's human nature I suppose.

Jim Rutherford flat out admitted that Kaberle did not come to training camp in shape, and attributed it to winning the Stanley Cup and not preparing himself during the summer:

http://www.xmhomeice.com/onair_audio/11-11-30%20Jim%20Rutherford%20.mp3

It's really too bad to see him (Kaberle) do that.

I've listened to and respected Rutherford for years. He's a serious GM who doesn't tend to joke around but he's also got a heart and seems to treat his people well. He's got class in my opinion. He's also one of the better GMs.

I can't recall him ever airing stuff like that about any of his players. Maybe he has but it cannot have been often. Jim must feel Tomas really wronged them for him to say what he did.

 

[bustaheims]

Cue the Tomas Flaberle rituals...

That's Too-Mass Flaberle, thank you very much.

 

[Rebel_1812]

Or Kaberle could just be on the decline.  He's turning 34 this season.

Burke traded him at the right time.  No way Carolina gets anything close to the deal we did.  On second thought, the right time to trade him was to philly for carter and a 1st.

 

[Rebel_1812]

Cue the Tomas Flaberle rituals...

That's Too-Mass Flaberle, thank you very much.

He taught Wellwood everything he knows.

 

[cw]

30 Thoughts
9. Unlike Anaheim Ducks GM Bob Murray, who announced that he's not trading Bobby Ryan as he sees how a coaching change affects his group, Rutherford plans to make moves. Top candidates: Tuomo Ruutu (UFA-to-be, making $4.4 million in cash this season) and Tomas Kaberle (tough contract, two more years at $8.75 million -- cash total).

10. One agent and a couple of GMs made an interesting comment about in-season trading. They pointed out that, sometimes, the toughest thing about making deals is not what's owed on a contract in future seasons, it's what owed this season. ("If you want, you can dump a contract in the summer," one GM said). So many teams are at their budgets -- or over -- because of injuries. Carolina might have to wait a little bit before it can move either player. There is interest in Ruutu. Rutherford seems confident he can trade Kaberle in a month or two as long as the defenceman starts playing better.

 

[maplesyrup]

I never thought I'd say it (let alone so soon) but I'm not interested in the least.

 

[Tigger]

Cue the Tomas Flaberle rituals...

That's Too-Mass Flaberle, thank you very much.

 

[Scot4bz]