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Game 2: Leafs @ Bruins - Apr. 13th, 8:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

Chris said:
Guilt Trip said:
My fear is that with Kadri out Babs will put Marleau with Matthews and that would be a huge mistake. Kadri being out shouldn't effect his line but it always does. I don't see him putting Nylander, Marleau and Brown together. One positive is that Kadri will be off the 1st PP. Let's see what Babs does.
Rather see

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Marleau-Kapanen


I hate hate HATE Marleau with Matthews

Those are exactly the lines I'm hoping for (but not expecting). Moore/Marleau/Kapanen could be a very strong 3rd line and Matthews and Nylander shouldn't be split up.
 
Haha. Avery and his 2 cents.

https://www.bardown.com/sean-avery-sounded-off-on-jake-debrusk-s-marleau-hit-nazem-kadri-s-response-1.1290410
Chris said:
Guilt Trip said:
My fear is that with Kadri out Babs will put Marleau with Matthews and that would be a huge mistake. Kadri being out shouldn't effect his line but it always does. I don't see him putting Nylander, Marleau and Brown together. One positive is that Kadri will be off the 1st PP. Let's see what Babs does.
Rather see

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Marleau-Kapanen


I hate hate HATE Marleau with Matthews, could live with

Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Marleau-Nylander-Brown (or Moore)
Get ready to hate then. Moore will not move off the 4th line. I'd be shocked. Brown will get moved up, and Ennis will likely come in.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Haha. Avery and his 2 cents.

https://www.bardown.com/sean-avery-sounded-off-on-jake-debrusk-s-marleau-hit-nazem-kadri-s-response-1.1290410
Chris said:
Guilt Trip said:
My fear is that with Kadri out Babs will put Marleau with Matthews and that would be a huge mistake. Kadri being out shouldn't effect his line but it always does. I don't see him putting Nylander, Marleau and Brown together. One positive is that Kadri will be off the 1st PP. Let's see what Babs does.
Rather see

Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Marleau-Kapanen


I hate hate HATE Marleau with Matthews, could live with

Johnsson-Matthews-Kapanen
Marleau-Nylander-Brown (or Moore)
Get ready to hate then. Moore will not move off the 4th line. I'd be shocked. Brown will get moved up, and Ennis will likely come in.
I could live with Brown getting moved up but Marleau with Matthews...has that ever worked?

Avery is hilarious. Wonder if Matthews has ever been in a fight?
 
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.
 
When we got Muzz I said his clean hits would come in handy in a series. Levelled Krug and he's out, a blow for them. One things for sure: the Leafs and Bruins and beating the hell out of each other in a Conference Final calibre match-up in the first round. Whoever goes on will have paid a stiff price. I won't chip in on anything else cuz it'll all been said.
 
Zee said:
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.
They all have to get going, not just Matthews. It's not just on him even tho the focus will be.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Zee said:
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.
They all have to get going, not just Matthews. It's not just on him even tho the focus will be.
Matthews, Tavares and Marner are their best players. If your best players don't play well you have no shot. With those 2 lines dominating for 40+ minutes of the game it goes a long way towards helping you win. Matthews two straight games held pointless. It feels a alot like last year again.
 
Zee said:
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.

I know that we expect a player of Matthews' caliber to rise above it, but I still think it hurts him to play with 3rd liners. And now with Kadri's suspension there's no chance for a Matthews-Nylander reunion.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zee said:
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.

I know that we expect a player of Matthews' caliber to rise above it, but I still think it hurts him to play with 3rd liners. And now with Kadri's suspension there's no chance for a Matthews-Nylander reunion.
I agree with you. Maybe Babs will surprise us but I doubt it. He wasn't playing Nylander with Matthews anyway.
And Zee, while he's been held pointless, this doesn't feel like last year. He played well in game 1 and was arguably our most dangerous forward in game 2. He's also played better defensively this time around. Do I want more? Absolutely, but I want more from all of our top end guys.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zee said:
Leafs are way better prepared to handle the Kadri suspension this year cause they have Tavares but Matthews has to get going. If he does nothing this series is over.

I know that we expect a player of Matthews' caliber to rise above it, but I still think it hurts him to play with 3rd liners. And now with Kadri's suspension there's no chance for a Matthews-Nylander reunion.


Wasn't just Matthews last night. The Tavares line was shut down by the Bruins 4th line. That can't happen. They should have feasted not playing against Bergeron but they didn't. If they're going well , in game adjustments by Cassidy would get Matthews a more favorable matchup as he worried about Tavares. When both lines aren't going you get what we saw last night.
 
Highlander said:
TML fan said:
Kadri's season is over.
Kadri's Leaf career is over. Don't get me wrong I have always like him; followed his ups and downs since he was drafted, but he keeps making knucklehead mistakes which hurt his team and teamates.  Time for him to go.
I do think this is very possible.  Could be dealt in the offseason.
 
BermudaBudsFan said:
Highlander said:
TML fan said:
Kadri's season is over.
Kadri's Leaf career is over. Don't get me wrong I have always like him; followed his ups and downs since he was drafted, but he keeps making knucklehead mistakes which hurt his team and teamates.  Time for him to go.
I do think this is very possible.  Could be dealt in the offseason.


I think this will pick up steam especially if Leafs lose this series. I didn't think they would look to deal Kadri until the final year of his contract since it's such a good number for him; but when he does stuff like this that really hurts the team you have to think twice about keeping him around. He just doesn't seem to learn from past mistakes.
 
Zee said:
BermudaBudsFan said:
Highlander said:
TML fan said:
Kadri's season is over.
Kadri's Leaf career is over. Don't get me wrong I have always like him; followed his ups and downs since he was drafted, but he keeps making knucklehead mistakes which hurt his team and teamates.  Time for him to go.
I do think this is very possible.  Could be dealt in the offseason.


I think this will pick up steam especially if Leafs lose this series. I didn't think they would look to deal Kadri until the final year of his contract since it's such a good number for him; but when he does stuff like this that really hurts the team you have to think twice about keeping him around. He just doesn't seem to learn from past mistakes.
Add to this quite correct view, that they could use a right shot D and I think the path for a Dubas becomes clear.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Andy said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
The refs let the game get out of hand.  They need to take some responsibility.  So, without ever admitting that of course, I think the league will let up a bit.  My guess is that Kadri's suspension will be shorter than it might be otherwise.  I'll guess 2 games.

I don't think the league gives one whit and I don't see Kadri getting anything less than 5.

You could be right, of course.  I might be indulging in a wishful lust for co-justice and responsibility.

More likely that Player Safety does what it does with Kadri and the refs tighten up on calling things the rest of the way, I'd think.

But looking ahead... they're at least in a better spot this year with Nylander slotting into 3C rather than Plekanec into 2C.
 
  I blame the NHL for the this game last night.They let hitting to take place over and beyond what I thought was eliminated from the game.

For example when a player has the puck and then passes it off. The opposing player has a right to check or hit the player. However once the puck is in transition to another player,hitting the player that has already passed the puck amounts to interference and a penalty should be called.
This is what the Bruins resorted to,is just hit players whenever they could whether the puck was elsewhere or not.  In my opinion that,s what causes retaliation and a violent game follows.
I may have incorrectly understood that this was taken out of the game. I,m surprised that the referee s allowed that last night.
Is the NHL going back to the goon like hitting ? I see no talent being displayed when players are running at others causing interference.

If so, Dubas might have to get a couple of goons on the squad.
 
Highlander said:
Palmateer29 said:
Bullfrog said:
lc9 said:
Gender Bender said:
lc9 said:
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isn?t an xfactor.  Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.  I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
Sorry Mikey 29, you are just plain wrong.  Nylander is going to prove a steal over and over.  And he is not going anywhere so get used to him, Dubas promised him no trade and Dubas has to be a man of his word.
The thing is all these forwards are what 21, 22?  Once we have a very nice D in 3 years and these guys are a seasoned 25-26...just imagine, a not a decent D but a dynamic D.  Its coming.
I thought Muzzin had a terrible game, responsible for the first 2 goals.
Nylander will be traded in the summer for a RHD and cap space. Book it.
 
Leaffan61 said:
Highlander said:
Palmateer29 said:
Bullfrog said:
lc9 said:
Gender Bender said:
lc9 said:
Really need to think about trading Nylander in the offseason.  He isn?t an xfactor.  Unless people think he will rebound next season.
Selling low is not a good idea.

This is a good point.  I guess you could look at the acquired cap space as the win in the trade.

Just. Stop.

I've tried to be as tolerant as possible, but this is just absolute garbage.

Because he's not worth anywhere near what they signed him for?
Sorry Mikey 29, you are just plain wrong.  Nylander is going to prove a steal over and over.  And he is not going anywhere so get used to him, Dubas promised him no trade and Dubas has to be a man of his word.
The thing is all these forwards are what 21, 22?  Once we have a very nice D in 3 years and these guys are a seasoned 25-26...just imagine, a not a decent D but a dynamic D.  Its coming.
I thought Muzzin had a terrible game, responsible for the first 2 goals.
Nylander will be traded in the summer for a RHD and cap space. Book it.
Do you think that Dubas can unload Nylander who is playing at half of what his cap hit is worth.This was a stupid signing and I wanted them to trade him rather than sign him and I mentioned that a couple of times on the board. He single handed  cooled the whole team when he came back. He will not be an easy dump after the season unless he gets serious about playing in these playoffs.
 

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