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Game 78: Goons @ Maple Leafs, 7:00pm, Does anyone still care?

Potvin29 said:
Bonsixx said:
Is it possible they're just not liking Carlyle and basically refusing to respond to his tactics?

They're probably struggling to implement what he wants to do, which is being compounded by shaky goaltending/low confidence/playoff elimination.  It's bad regardless, but hard to pinpoint really what it is right now.

They have little skill and less heart.  Simple.
 
Saint Nik said:
Dear morons at the ACC,

Stop buying Leafs tickets, start buying Jays tickets. Otherwise you're just a bunch of whiny lady dogs.

Sincerely,

Nik

I agree they should stop buying tickets, but I appreciate the chants.
 
Potvin29 said:
Bonsixx said:
Is it possible they're just not liking Carlyle and basically refusing to respond to his tactics?

They're probably struggling to implement what he wants to do, which is being compounded by shaky goaltending/low confidence/playoff elimination.  It's bad regardless, but hard to pinpoint really what it is right now.

Yeah, I'd say it has little to do with 'liking' Carlyle, more that he's asking them to do things they really haven't done all year. It's tough for a one way team to suddenly adjust and like you say, goaltending hasn't been great.
 
Every team has an adjustment period with a new coach. With only 18 games left and a totally different style of play it was a tall order for a dejected team to turn it around. Look at Carolina, it took them 15-20 games under Muller before they started to play better. It was too late with Carlyle coming in and the circumstances of the Leafs going from almost sure playoff team to being out just sucked the life out of the players.
 
BermudaBudsFan said:
Potvin29 said:
Bonsixx said:
Is it possible they're just not liking Carlyle and basically refusing to respond to his tactics?

They're probably struggling to implement what he wants to do, which is being compounded by shaky goaltending/low confidence/playoff elimination.  It's bad regardless, but hard to pinpoint really what it is right now.

They have little skill and less heart.  Simple.

They're beat, done. I honestly think they have tons of skill but you may be right about some of the heart, especially right now.
 
BermudaBudsFan said:
Saint Nik said:
Dear morons at the ACC,

Stop buying Leafs tickets, start buying Jays tickets. Otherwise you're just a bunch of whiny lady dogs.

Sincerely,

Nik

I agree they should stop buying tickets, but I appreciate the chants.

Leaf fans should stop buying tickets now and starting filling Ricoh and support our Marlies.  Now that is a team that has bought into a system.  Make a statement for once Leaf fans, it is like we deserve this destiny of anguish heaped upon us.
 
As long as we're saying ridiculous things, I'd like to chalk this team's collapse up to the attitude that allowed Grabo to miss a game due to childbirth.
 
Tigger said:
BermudaBudsFan said:
Potvin29 said:
Bonsixx said:
Is it possible they're just not liking Carlyle and basically refusing to respond to his tactics?

They're probably struggling to implement what he wants to do, which is being compounded by shaky goaltending/low confidence/playoff elimination.  It's bad regardless, but hard to pinpoint really what it is right now.

They have little skill and less heart.  Simple.

They're beat, done. I honestly think they have tons of skill but you may be right about some of the heart, especially right now.

I very much want a high draft pick, but how they have mailed this in is disgraceful.  It makes me wonder whether any part of the current group can be part of a successful solution.  I doubt it.
 
Deebo said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Oh for gods sake shut up Bowen.

What's he saying?

He was going on about how, one day, when the Leafs finally get this turned around, the other teams beating up on us will have their turn to feel what it's like.
 
Saint Nik said:
As long as we're saying ridiculous things, I'd like to chalk this team's collapse up to the attitude that allowed Grabo to miss a game due to childbirth.

I blame Mats Sundin, this all started on his banner raising, it must have been his demotivating speech.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
He was going on about how, one day, when the Leafs finally get this turned around, the other teams beating up on us will have their turn to feel what it's like.

I think that's a Taylor Swift song.
 
BermudaBudsFan said:
Saint Nik said:
As long as we're saying ridiculous things, I'd like to chalk this team's collapse up to the attitude that allowed Grabo to miss a game due to childbirth.

Dumb.

I know, right? Hire someone to videotape it and play anyway.
 
BermudaBudsFan said:
Tigger said:
BermudaBudsFan said:
Potvin29 said:
Bonsixx said:
Is it possible they're just not liking Carlyle and basically refusing to respond to his tactics?

They're probably struggling to implement what he wants to do, which is being compounded by shaky goaltending/low confidence/playoff elimination.  It's bad regardless, but hard to pinpoint really what it is right now.

They have little skill and less heart.  Simple.

They're beat, done. I honestly think they have tons of skill but you may be right about some of the heart, especially right now.

I very much want a high draft pick, but how they have mailed this in is disgraceful.  It makes me wonder whether any part of the current group can be part of a successful solution.  I doubt it.

I can understand why you doubt it but I think there are significant parts of the team that will be fine going forward.

As a group they really do just seem defeated right now, it's kind of sad but I'll take a decent draft pick and hope there's a 'development machine' a la Stewie somewhere down at the ACC.
 
The way these last few years have gone, I'm fully expecting Burke to get levied with tampering charges and we will lose our pick.
 
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