Grabovski Bought Out

[cw]

I might have bought out Liles before Grabbo ... or Liles & Grabbo and buried Komisarek for one more year in the AHL.

I had warmed up to Grabbo.

If they turn around and give his $5.5 to Bozak, I'll puke.

 

[Frank E]

I wonder if there's an agreement in place with a UFA (ex: Weiss).

Have to believe there's something like that going on. Or they've agreed to really overpay Bozak.

That being said, I expect Grabovski to have a nice bounce back year next season, wherever he lands, and make Nonis and Co. look stupid for making this move.

Please not the Bozak thing.

 

[Corn Flake]

Love it.  For some folks on this board he was impervious to criticism.  I hope there's an upgrade in place.

To a point I agree with you. He does get a very long leash in comparison to many other players. Some of his mistakes in the post season were enormous but go unmentioned, while other players made less and get chastised on a regular basis.

That said, there needs to be something big about to go down to make the team better with Grabbo leaving.  Something quite big.

 

[Frank E]

I might have bought out Liles before Grabbo ... or Liles & Grabbo and buried Komisarek for one more year in the AHL.

I had warmed up to Grabbo.

This.

I would have buried Komi, our bought him out and taken the hit.

 

[Kin]

Love it.  For some folks on this board he was impervious to criticism.  I hope there's an upgrade in place.

Logic would certainly dictate that there is.

I don't know. I think you can make the case that this decision makes sense just from a "Let's not have any bad contracts on the books going forward" sense.

 

[bustaheims]

Please not the Bozak thing.

Sadly, it's probably the most likely reason.

 

[Redleaf]

Love it.  For some folks on this board he was impervious to criticism.  I hope there's an upgrade in place.

To a point I agree with you. He does get a very long leash in comparison to many other players. Some of his mistakes in the post season were enormous but go unmentioned, while other players made less and get chastised on a regular basis.

That said, there needs to be something big about to go down to make the team better with Grabbo leaving.  Something quite big.

What. You mean they just haven't agreed to an 8 year, 6 million deal for Bozak?

 

[AvroArrow]

I'm with others, that cap space better not go to Bozak. I don't even want if he's cheap - I want someone to fill the #1 C position better.

 

[caver]

Good things coming boys.  8)

 

[caver]

McClement is #4, Bolland is 3, Kadri is not ready for 1 so he is #2, you got to think they just cleared the decks for a #1.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Please not the Bozak thing.

Sadly, it's probably the most likely reason.

It better not be because of Bozak.

Last year, by far Grabovski's worst statistically (courtesy Siegel):

Bozak: 18 even-strength points in 722 mins. Grabovski: 13 in 664. Bozak: 12 goals. Grabovski: 9. Bozak: 52.6% FO. Grabovski: 50.6%.

One played with Kessel/JVR, the other played with McClement, Kulemin, MacArthur, Frattin.

Doesn't even get into zone starts, etc.

I know who I would rather have and it's not really close.

And if it's for someone other than Bozak, well then I'll reserve judgment until that happens.

EDIT: And to add more Siegel to the Bozak comparison (if that's why, mind):

@jonasTSN1050

Grabovski had 52 goals and 109 points in two seasons prior to 2013. Bozak had 33 and 79. Hard to argue Grabovski isn't the better player.

 

[Redleaf]

McClement is #4, Bolland is 3, Kadri is not ready for 1 so he is #2, you got to think they just cleared the decks for a #1.

If true, I'm guessing Weiss.

 

[Corn Flake]

Bozak is not a #1, he is a #3 or maybe a #2
Grabbo is not a #1 he is a good #2, when healthy.
Kadri is not a #1 (yet). He is a #2
Bolland is not a #1, he is a great #3.

They just acquired Bolland and Kadri isn't going anywhere.  The other two guys can't fill the other vacant job (Sorry Grabbo fans but it wasn't going to happen), so the decision to let Grabbo go, however painful, should (has to?) lead to a legit #1 coming in. 

I don't think Bozak is coming back but maybe I should shut up until that is decided, but I think/hope there is something much larger about to land here that will make the Grabbo pain go away quickly.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Love it.  For some folks on this board he was impervious to criticism.  I hope there's an upgrade in place.

To a point I agree with you. He does get a very long leash in comparison to many other players. Some of his mistakes in the post season were enormous but go unmentioned, while other players made less and get chastised on a regular basis.

That said, there needs to be something big about to go down to make the team better with Grabbo leaving.  Something quite big.

He is 17th in goals & 39th in pts among C over the past 3 seasons.  There better be something good coming, because Nonis just let a wacky half-season decide the fate of a very good player.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Please not the Bozak thing.

Sadly, it's probably the most likely reason.

It better not be because of Bozak.

Last year, by far Grabovski's worst statistically (courtesy Siegel):

Bozak: 18 even-strength points in 722 mins. Grabovski: 13 in 664. Bozak: 12 goals. Grabovski: 9. Bozak: 52.6% FO. Grabovski: 50.6%.

One played with Kessel/JVR, the other played with McClement, Kulemin, MacArthur, Frattin.

Doesn't even get into zone starts, etc.

I know who I would rather have and it's not really close.

And if it's for someone other than Bozak, well then I'll reserve judgment until that happens.

Couldn't they have signed Bozak without the second buyout?  With the amount of dollars Nonis cleared out on short notice, it just feels like there are 1+ transactions in the ready, aside from the usual rfa suspects.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Well, this is certainly curious. I have to imagine there's something brewing that required the Leafs clearing out a butt load of cap space for nothing.

Yup, I kind of thought this was going to happen. He just doesn't fit, as Kadri most likely owns the #2 slot and I don't think Carlyle knows what to do with Grabbo. They tried him on the 3rd line as a checker and we know what happened.

It's almost a guarantee that Nonis is either going to trade for a big name or sign Weiss.

 

[Jalili]

Huge day for Leaf management coming up. If they don't upgrade on Bozak it's gonna look terrible.

If it was a question of Grabovski vs. Clarkson for similar money, I'd take Grabovski any day.

 

[Zee]

Please not the Bozak thing.

Sadly, it's probably the most likely reason.

It better not be because of Bozak.

Last year, by far Grabovski's worst statistically (courtesy Siegel):

Bozak: 18 even-strength points in 722 mins. Grabovski: 13 in 664. Bozak: 12 goals. Grabovski: 9. Bozak: 52.6% FO. Grabovski: 50.6%.

One played with Kessel/JVR, the other played with McClement, Kulemin, MacArthur, Frattin.

Doesn't even get into zone starts, etc.

I know who I would rather have and it's not really close.

And if it's for someone other than Bozak, well then I'll reserve judgment until that happens.

Couldn't they have signed Bozak without the second buyout?  With the amount of dollars Nonis cleared out on short notice, it just feels like there are 1+ transactions in the ready, aside from the usual rfa suspects.

I think a trade is coming with some big money.  Just a hunch.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Perhaps we're starting to see the philosophical differences between Nonis and Burke?  He certainly seems to be attempting to put his stamp on the team in short order.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Well, this is certainly curious. I have to imagine there's something brewing that required the Leafs clearing out a butt load of cap space for nothing.

Yup, I kind of thought this was going to happen. He just doesn't fit, as Kadri most likely owns the #2 slot and I don't think Carlyle knows what to do with Grabbo. They tried him on the 3rd line as a checker and we know what happened.

It's almost a guarantee that Nonis is either going to trade for a big name or sign Weiss.

He was never given a chance to be a #1 C on the Leafs, and I don't know why.