bustaheims
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
hockeyfan1
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herman said:
Whoa! If this is for real, then bless whoever it is!
hockeyfan1
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crazyperfectdevil said:
It seems to me that he wants to whitewash Barack Obama's existence in the analysis of Presidential history.
I feel sorry for those (Americans) who didn't vote for him.
Hillary Clinton had it in the bag to make history but blew it away. In a way I blame her almost entirely on account of that scandal. If it hadn't happened...
Heroic Shrimp
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The amount of damage the U.S. has done and continues to do to itself in the wake of 9/11 dwarfs the losses it suffered on 9/11.
Muslim ban. This is disgusting.
OrangeBlack
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It's not really a ban, it's a temporary travel restriction for 4 months. The idea is to make sure that refugees & immigrants that come into this country are properly vetted. Certainly, it's not a perfect system....they're trying to figure it out as they go along. Hopefully, this leads to a clean process that's acceptable to both sides. It's not unreasonable to state that if you allow hundreds of thousands of people free entry into the US from both Mexico & the travel banned countries....it will lead to bad risks that will infiltrate those ranks. Yes, 99% of the people that come in to the US are good people....vetting keeps out the other 1%. Is it profiling....probably.
Is there a better way to do it? It's very unfortunate that innocents at JFK right now are caught in the wide net that was cast. I feel bad for them & their families.
Is there a better way to do it? It's very unfortunate that innocents at JFK right now are caught in the wide net that was cast. I feel bad for them & their families.
Heroic Shrimp
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OrangeBlack said:
Any student of history can see that all of this is going in a very bad direction that will be catastrophic to thousands and thousands of innocent people. In the end, to Americans as well. The vetting process is already extremely tough. This is not making America great again, it's a reckless action out of fear and cowardice. Same with the border wall. A sufficient number of people elected an shockingly ignorant, petty, narcissist, and his party doesn't have the courage to challenge this intellectual and emotional toddler. I'm truly embarrassed for the U.S. right now.
https://twitter.com/Stl_Manifest
L K
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OrangeBlack said:
You are right, it isn't an outright ban on Muslims:
Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia - The seven countries placed on the ban list. Number of terrorists from these countries that perpetrated 9/11 = zero.
Saudi Arabia - no ban. 15 of 19 were from here.
Lebanon - 1 of the 19
Egypt - 1 of the 19
UAE - 2 of the 19
Trump conveniently does a fair amount of business with Egypt and Saudia Arabia.
Heroic Shrimp
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L K said:
And, if it needed observing (and it probably shouldn't...), Trump also has no business in the 7 banned countries.
Heroic Shrimp
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Well worth reading to the end of the Tweet-thread:
https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/825397560126824448
https://twitter.com/dyllyp/status/825397560126824448
L K
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Heroic Shrimp said:
That's the kind of stuff that makes your heart break and uplift you at the same time. The far more common reality is that Brahim becomes another statistic.
The John Oliver special on this is pertinent at this time:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QplQL5eAxlY[/youtube]
Kin
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OrangeBlack said:
It is unreasonable, however, to insinuate this will in anyway make anyone safer. There are thousands of border guards along the Mexican border. Everyone who immigrates to the US or seeks refugee status is already vetted. You make it sound like thousands of Iranians are showing up at Ellis Island.
As already mentioned, you can't really point to any particular act of terrorism committed by someone who illegally came to the US from one of these countries. The shooters in San Bernadino, for instance, were someone born in America and an immigrant from Pakistan, another country not on the list.
Supporters of this sort of ridiculous thing can't have it both ways. Either there aren't massive efforts from terrorists to illegally get into into America from these countries or there are and the existing safeguards have been incredibly successful at preventing them.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Signed into law on Holocaust Remembrance Day, no less. Just appalling.
louisstamos
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Overturned by a federal court thanks to an ACLU appeal. Temporary, but helpful for now.
hockeyfan1
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What Trump did (the ban) will fall right into the hands of the terrorist groups. They will gleefully be able to convince the many (confused Muslims about the West), and use it as 'proof' that the West (namely America) hates them. Don't think that Trump's actions will make America any safer, because it won't.
...counterterrorism experts say that the policy could backfire by providing more fodder for propaganda and recruiting by jihadist groups that aim to demonize the United States.
In interviews, analysts and former counterterrorism officials said the proposed immigration restrictions would reinforce the jihadists? binary worldview in which a monolithic West conspires to oppress Muslims across the planet...
"There is no doubt in my mind that, wherever they are, propagandists for groups of the likes of the Islamic State will be looking at what?s happening and rubbing their hands with glee. Because this is exactly the kind of world they want to inhabit. It?s a world that reifies their ideology,? says Charlie Winter, a senior research fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence in London.
Groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda could to use the new restrictions to sway new followers around the world, says Clint Watts, a former FBI counterterrorism special agent and U.S. Army infantry officer.
http://time.com/4651729/president-trump-refugee-suspension-backfire/
...counterterrorism experts say that the policy could backfire by providing more fodder for propaganda and recruiting by jihadist groups that aim to demonize the United States.
In interviews, analysts and former counterterrorism officials said the proposed immigration restrictions would reinforce the jihadists? binary worldview in which a monolithic West conspires to oppress Muslims across the planet...
"There is no doubt in my mind that, wherever they are, propagandists for groups of the likes of the Islamic State will be looking at what?s happening and rubbing their hands with glee. Because this is exactly the kind of world they want to inhabit. It?s a world that reifies their ideology,? says Charlie Winter, a senior research fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence in London.
Groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda could to use the new restrictions to sway new followers around the world, says Clint Watts, a former FBI counterterrorism special agent and U.S. Army infantry officer.
http://time.com/4651729/president-trump-refugee-suspension-backfire/
bustaheims
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louisstamos said:
Only for those already on US soil. It's a step forward, but just the beginning of the fight.
bustaheims said:
It's almost as if one of his chief advisors is a literal Nazi.