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Mostar said:
I think if you have the "presence" all you have to be is mediocre in other aspects of the job.

Only once you've established a reputation. You don't get a job at the NHL level merely by having "presence." You have to have at least proven a level of competency in some level of management or comes from a pretty solid hockey background. No one breaks into NHL management on personality or presence alone, nor do they stay there on those things. You have to at least have developed a reputation for a level of competency, or have shown a level of competency at some point early in your career.
 
RedLeaf said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
RedLeaf said:
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Nik the Trik said:
Highlander said:
I witnessed the structure in Phoenix when Detroit played the Yotes and I can tell you, that everyone on that team knew where to be on the ice all the time. So if you can't learn you are out.

Except that's complete hogwash. I've watched Red Wings games with Babcock coaching them. Their players made mistakes. They get out of position or forget to cover their man. And not guys who then got shipped out the next day either.

One mans hogwash is another mans bible. Isn't that how the saying goes?

So if Nik responds to this, are you going to get mad at him if he makes a flippant remark?

You do know there's a difference between flippant and derogatory?

Actually there isn't a real big difference between the two:

de?rog?a?to?ry
dəˈr?ɡəˌt?rē/
adjective
showing a critical or disrespectful attitude.

flip?pant
ˈflipənt
adjective
not showing a serious or respectful attitude.

Even if there was, as your post points out, that is completely in the eye of the beholder.  Calling someone on what they post as being inaccurate isn't a crime and therefore not derogatory in my eyes.  He didn't insult Highlander, he dismissed what he said.  If he had said "Hey Highlander, you are a complete and total moron for posting that" then yeah, defend Highlander.  He didn't do that though.  He called the post hogwash and said why he felt that it was hogwash and backed his claim up. There is a difference.  I'll take that over someone posting "Leafs suxors!!! You gay!!" any day of the week.  I get it, sometimes I get a little heated when debating stuff on this board, but that's because I don't like being wrong.  That's my problem though. 

What I find funny is there are lots of people here who do the same thing as others, and then point the finger when someone does it to them.  If you are going to dish it out, then be prepared to take it is all I am saying.  You can say what you want about some of the posters here, but when they start something, they will see it through.

If you are referring to just that one post, than you're right. It wasn't derogatory. I'm not sure why you would think I'd get mad about a response to my post unless it was unnecessarily derogatory. Unless that was what you were expecting?

No that's not what I was expecting.  I was basing what I thought was going to happen on stuff that I have observed in the past.  The observation I had was that you would be having a conversation with someone in which Nik would post a comment, usually with a piece that was a little more exact and to the point than most.  In response it would appear that you would get angry at Nik for the response and fire back a post in defense of what you had posted.  I had always assumed that the reason that you took issue was because Nik was now interjecting in to your conversation to tell you that he felt your post was inaccurate.

In this case though, Nik and Highlander were having a conversation, and you interjected to tell Nik that you felt his position was wrong.  I wondered if Nik chose to respond to your post with one that you felt was flippant if you would still get angry, or if you would realize that you sort of brought it on yourself by interjecting in to the conversation.


I'm not really sure what you think you're going to unearth here? 

If you're going to call someone out on a forum you better have all your facts together and go about your business with some integrity.

I mean, in fairness you will also need to call Nik out about some of his replies to posters on this board over the years too. Is that your next play?

If its just the dog days of summer getting to you, than suck it up man. At the end of the day, one mans observations and opinions are just that, and there are a world full of opposing ones.

Thanks for the tips on life.
 
I do enjoy the banter on this forum as all of us do, that is why we are all still here. I must say most of my posts are Bacardi infused so I better start thinking out my posts a bit better or there will certainly be contrary positions to rip apart some of the inadequate or incomplete things I may post. But all in good fun. I do enjoy the site and even the occasional rip back and forth. I probably have a lot more in common with Redleaf than Nik but both always post in very direct and informative way. I have no hard feelings and am glad to be here.
I am nearing 60, I remember the good days of Stanley Cup teams and have walked with most of your through the desert and hopefully we are on the edge of the promised land. With miles to go.
 

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