Kadri facing possible suspension (edit: 3 games)

[GhostofPotvin29]

They have to say that. Refs union would throw a s#,+ storm otherwise.

The league has rescinded match penalties in the past.

 

[TML fan]

They have to say that. Refs union would throw a s#,+ storm otherwise.

The league has rescinded match penalties in the past.

And probably got crap for it from the union.

 

[Stickytape]

2+ games sounds right to me.  That hit disgusts me.  If someone hit Bernier like that I'd be calling for his head on a pike outside the ACC.

 

[nutman]

I still don't think it deserves a suspension. Backstrom is outside the blue paint and on his knees. So no matter what Kadri does it's going to be "contact with the head".

As mentioned earlier, the play at full speed sees Kadri turn and move into him at virtually the same time with no elbow.

If this is the kind of thing the league is looking to crack down on and not the hit near the end of the game on Phaneuf where 2 players hit him from behind, then I'm not sure what the message is. I'm sick of inconsistent league discipline (Nash hit etc.).

Even better is that John Shannon reported on Twitter that the league looked at the play in which Kadri got a match penalty and said no further discipline was coming, that the hit was a body hit, and that the right call was made on the ice.

So...basically they are saying the right call was a match penalty for a body check.

A match penalty was a crap call, it was a body check. as for the goalie hit that one should have been a match, if anything I think over all he got more then he should have. should be a closed book, but you know how the media works. They want to not just cover the game, they want to dictate how they are played and ran.

 

[Bullfrog]

Goalie interference penalty was sufficient in my mind. I don't see that as a suspendable offence. There's no way it was deliberate.

Kadri should be mindful when he's around the goalie though. I think that's the only argument against it.

 

[Champ Kind]

Goalie interference penalty was sufficient in my mind. I don't see that as a suspendable offence. There's no way it was deliberate.

Kadri should be mindful when he's around the goalie though. I think that's the only argument against it.

With all due respect you need to watch the replays.  The fact that Kadri drove to the net and made contact was fine, with intereference the right call.  But at the moment of impact his forearm drives right through Backstrom's head.  Totally unnecessary.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Goalie interference penalty was sufficient in my mind. I don't see that as a suspendable offence. There's no way it was deliberate.

Kadri should be mindful when he's around the goalie though. I think that's the only argument against it.

With all due respect you need to watch the replays.  The fact that Kadri drove to the net and made contact was fine, with intereference the right call.  But at the moment of impact his forearm drives right through Backstrom's head.  Totally unnecessary.

Watch the slo-mo reply.  His arm doesn't lift until after Backstrom has been hit.  At the moment of contact, Kadri's arm is low.

EDIT: Specifically at seconds :46 to :49 of the video in the original post.  Backstrom is already down when Kadri's arms move.  His arms move in the typical way they would if you're trying to avoid the goalie by raising your arms above him (obviously it happened so fast that his body didn't react in time).

 

[Bullfrog]

Goalie interference penalty was sufficient in my mind. I don't see that as a suspendable offence. There's no way it was deliberate.

Kadri should be mindful when he's around the goalie though. I think that's the only argument against it.

With all due respect you need to watch the replays.  The fact that Kadri drove to the net and made contact was fine, with intereference the right call.  But at the moment of impact his forearm drives right through Backstrom's head.  Totally unnecessary.

I've watched it at least 20 times. After watching it, I formed my opinion.

I think quite the opposite of what you suggest happened. If you look at the moment of impact, around the 1:04 to 1:08 mark of the video, you'll see that Kadri actually pulls his forearm into his body. ya, he runs the goalie over, but it's not a deliberate elbow or forearm at all. I'd also argue it was impossible to avoid head contact there (I mean, aside from driving right through the crease), considering Backstrom's head was right near Kadri's hip height.

 

[Champ Kind]

Goalie interference penalty was sufficient in my mind. I don't see that as a suspendable offence. There's no way it was deliberate.

Kadri should be mindful when he's around the goalie though. I think that's the only argument against it.

With all due respect you need to watch the replays.  The fact that Kadri drove to the net and made contact was fine, with intereference the right call.  But at the moment of impact his forearm drives right through Backstrom's head.  Totally unnecessary.

I've watched it at least 20 times. After watching it, I formed my opinion.

I think quite the opposite of what you suggest happened. If you look at the moment of impact, around the 1:04 to 1:08 mark of the video, you'll see that Kadri actually pulls his forearm into his body. ya, he runs the goalie over, but it's not a deliberate elbow or forearm at all. I'd also argue it was impossible to avoid head contact there (I mean, aside from driving right through the crease), considering Backstrom's head was right near Kadri's hip height.

I'm with you and Potvin on the fact that he couldn't have avoided contact and that his arm was close to his body.  But his right arm accelerates through the contact.  Now, whether that had any actual effect I can't say.  What I maintain is that driving through the contact with his arm, which there is no doubt he did, was unnecessary and, perhaps, makes the whole thing look worse than it is.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Goalie interference penalty was sufficient in my mind. I don't see that as a suspendable offence. There's no way it was deliberate.

Kadri should be mindful when he's around the goalie though. I think that's the only argument against it.

With all due respect you need to watch the replays.  The fact that Kadri drove to the net and made contact was fine, with intereference the right call.  But at the moment of impact his forearm drives right through Backstrom's head.  Totally unnecessary.

I've watched it at least 20 times. After watching it, I formed my opinion.

I think quite the opposite of what you suggest happened. If you look at the moment of impact, around the 1:04 to 1:08 mark of the video, you'll see that Kadri actually pulls his forearm into his body. ya, he runs the goalie over, but it's not a deliberate elbow or forearm at all. I'd also argue it was impossible to avoid head contact there (I mean, aside from driving right through the crease), considering Backstrom's head was right near Kadri's hip height.

I'm with you and Potvin on the fact that he couldn't have avoided contact and that his arm was close to his body.  But his right arm accelerates through the contact.  Now, whether that had any actual effect I can't say.  What I maintain is that driving through the contact with his arm, which there is no doubt he did, was unnecessary and, perhaps, makes the whole thing look worse than it is.

Ah well in that case, yeah.

I see it as just a collision like sometimes happens between two unsuspecting players at centre ice.  So far I've found 3 recent suspensions relating to hitting goaltenders: Tootoo, Edler and Shaw.  In all 3 of those cases the player clearly saw the goaltender well in advance of hitting him and either (a) made no effort to get out of the way or (b) actively went for the contact.

I don't see this one being anywhere near as bad as any of those 3.

 

[L K]

I have a hard time seeing it as intent to injure.  I'm actually ok if they suspend him simply because he likely gave Backstrom a concussion (and Minnesota should face discipline for letting him stay in the game) on an illegal play.  But I don't buy the whole TSN "He led with his elbow and intentionally followed through" garbage. 

My god is the team ever going to be bad on Friday though if Kadri is out.

 

[bustaheims]

I'll be surprised if he gets more than one game, and I'm aghast that the league didn't rescind the match penalty for the hit on Granlund.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I'll be surprised if he gets more than one game, and I'm aghast that the league didn't rescind the match penalty for the hit on Granlund.

Dreger said on the radio this morning that the Leafs are going to try to get the league to rescind it.  So maybe it will and just hasn't happened yet.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

If there's anything this team needs, it's less centres.

 

[Palmateer29]

I'll be surprised if he gets more than one game, and I'm aghast that the league didn't rescind the match penalty for the hit on Granlund.

I did read this morning they had rescinded the match penalty as there is no match penalty for a check to the head.

I was pissed at Kadri last night watching the game. This morning I watched both replays and completely changed my mind. The hit on Backstrom should definitely be penalized but he did not follow through until after the contact. The second check shouldn't have even been a penalty after seeing the replay.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

Looks to me like Kadri is watching the puck,  he notices goalie out of the corner of his eye, tries to jump out of the way, nails goalie, and as he starts falling his arm comes up and elbow comes out.

Carless play on Kadri's part? Yes.
Suspension worthy? Probably a game.

 

[ZBBM]

Kadri hit the goalie in the head.  The league doesn't want that to happen.  End of story.  So he'll get a couple IMO.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Kadri deserves a minimum of two games.  He absolutely drives his elbow through Backstrom's head.  His elbow is close to his body, granted, but as contact is made is arm drives through and Backstrom's head clearly snaps back.  Although I will acknowledge that Backstrom's after-the-hit state is a bit overboard.

Backstrom most certainly sold it but you are bang on correct that Kadri saw Backstrom and lunged through the goalie.

It was an idiotic play and deserves suspension.

The bias around here is a tad frightening though not surprising.

If this occured to one of the Leafs goalies the place would be burning down.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Definitely a game or two.

The best point in this thread imo is that if this happened to a Leafs goalie we would be calling for the perpetrators head on a stick.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

The best point in this thread imo is that if this happened to a Leafs goalie we would be calling for the perpetrators head on a stick.

Bang on!