Kyle Dubas not returning as GM

[herman]

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1661789430770794505

?This is clearly prohibited under the regulations,? one long-time agent said on Thursday, requesting anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on behalf of his firm. ?It is an unwritten, understood and longstanding practice that your guy down the hall doesn?t work for the other side. I?d like the NHLPA to launch an investigation and draw their own conclusion.?

[...]

NHLPA Certified Agent regulations prohibit agents from representing and providing services to any officer or employee of an NHL club. Armstrong is not currently an NHL certified agent

k, so...

 

[bustaheims]

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1661789430770794505

?This is clearly prohibited under the regulations,? one long-time agent said on Thursday, requesting anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on behalf of his firm. ?It is an unwritten, understood and longstanding practice that your guy down the hall doesn?t work for the other side. I?d like the NHLPA to launch an investigation and draw their own conclusion.?

[...]

NHLPA Certified Agent regulations prohibit agents from representing and providing services to any officer or employee of an NHL club. Armstrong is not currently an NHL certified agent

k, so...

While this certainly feels like it violates the spirit of the regulations, it doesn't violate the letter of it. Can't see anything happening here outside of clarifying the language in those regulations.

 

[Peter D.]

I don't necessarily see anything really wrong with it, but the whole situation gets more bizarre as time passes.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

This feels like a giant nothingburger but I guess the PA has a crap load of free time on their hands as they ignore the general health, safety, and well-being of their players.

 

[Guilt Trip]

https://theathletic.com/4549473/2023/05/25/maple-leafs-kyle-dubas-3/

Shanahan went from wanting to bring Dubas back to firing him in a matter of days. And then offered his version of events in a press conference that left people inside the organization confused and upset.

Jason Spezza resigned before that press conference even began. The popular former Leaf who retired into a role with the front office after the 2021-22 season has declined to address the matter any further than that. That was intentional. Spezza wanted his actions to do the talking.

[...]

After a 19-year playing career in the NHL, in which he earned an estimated $90 million, according to CapFriendly, Spezza could afford to walk away. Others who felt the same, who were inclined to follow their leader out the door, couldn?t given they lacked that same sense of financial security.

It?s security they have because of Dubas.

Though he wasn?t offered an extension himself, not until after the trade deadline, Dubas fought to extend staff members who entered last season with expiring contracts. He got them extended with one, two, and three-year deals.

At least one staff member was inclined to ride things out with Dubas for an uncertain year. Dubas insisted ? take the security, protect your family.

?Don?t worry about me,? he told his people. ?I?ll be OK.?

Sounds like a pretty amazing boss. There are so many stories of what an absolute amazing human being Dubas is and how he treated everyone. We don't get the behind the scenes look but I'll always remember Dubas for 2 things. Staying with Mikheyev in Jersey and him running down the stairs on the phone when Tavares got hurt. The guy cares for people. The Leafs lost a great person.

 

[L K]

https://theathletic.com/4549473/2023/05/25/maple-leafs-kyle-dubas-3/

Shanahan went from wanting to bring Dubas back to firing him in a matter of days. And then offered his version of events in a press conference that left people inside the organization confused and upset.

Jason Spezza resigned before that press conference even began. The popular former Leaf who retired into a role with the front office after the 2021-22 season has declined to address the matter any further than that. That was intentional. Spezza wanted his actions to do the talking.

[...]

After a 19-year playing career in the NHL, in which he earned an estimated $90 million, according to CapFriendly, Spezza could afford to walk away. Others who felt the same, who were inclined to follow their leader out the door, couldn?t given they lacked that same sense of financial security.

It?s security they have because of Dubas.

Though he wasn?t offered an extension himself, not until after the trade deadline, Dubas fought to extend staff members who entered last season with expiring contracts. He got them extended with one, two, and three-year deals.

At least one staff member was inclined to ride things out with Dubas for an uncertain year. Dubas insisted ? take the security, protect your family.

?Don?t worry about me,? he told his people. ?I?ll be OK.?

Sounds like a pretty amazing boss. There are so many stories of what an absolute amazing human being Dubas is and how he treated everyone. We don't get the behind the scenes look but I'll always remember Dubas for 2 things. Staying with Mikheyev in Jersey and him running down the stairs on the phone when Tavares got hurt. The guy cares for people. The Leafs lost a great person.

I think this is part of why losing him sucked so much.  He's a nice guy and I really like the setup of our front office over this.  Contrast that to the team that gets Bedard this year (or our organization under Ballard) and it was just nice not having to worry about our front office doing something stupid.

When Fletcher had his melt-down over the Muskoka 5 and was disrespecting Mats it really ticked me off.  Dubas standing by our players through their playoff struggles mattered to me from a GM perspective.  I hope whoever replaces him can at least keep some of those elements in place.

 

[rdowdall]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

 

[Bill_Berg]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

 

[louisstamos]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. 

 

[Bill_Berg]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. 

I want a GM that can though.

 

[Jolly good show chaps]

But will the new GM trade our MG for a white Chrysler LeBaron?

 

[Zee]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I think Wickenheiser wears a short skirt with a long jacket

 

[rdowdall]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I want a GM with a short cap debt and a long........playoff bracket.

 

[Frank E]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I want a GM with a short cap debt and a long........playoff bracket.

Nah nah nah nah nah...

 

[Kin]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I want a GM with a short cap debt and a long........playoff bracket.

It's the only way for the Leafs to go the distance.

 

[Guilt Trip]

https://theathletic.com/4549473/2023/05/25/maple-leafs-kyle-dubas-3/

Shanahan went from wanting to bring Dubas back to firing him in a matter of days. And then offered his version of events in a press conference that left people inside the organization confused and upset.

Jason Spezza resigned before that press conference even began. The popular former Leaf who retired into a role with the front office after the 2021-22 season has declined to address the matter any further than that. That was intentional. Spezza wanted his actions to do the talking.

[...]

After a 19-year playing career in the NHL, in which he earned an estimated $90 million, according to CapFriendly, Spezza could afford to walk away. Others who felt the same, who were inclined to follow their leader out the door, couldn?t given they lacked that same sense of financial security.

It?s security they have because of Dubas.

Though he wasn?t offered an extension himself, not until after the trade deadline, Dubas fought to extend staff members who entered last season with expiring contracts. He got them extended with one, two, and three-year deals.

At least one staff member was inclined to ride things out with Dubas for an uncertain year. Dubas insisted ? take the security, protect your family.

?Don?t worry about me,? he told his people. ?I?ll be OK.?

Sounds like a pretty amazing boss. There are so many stories of what an absolute amazing human being Dubas is and how he treated everyone. We don't get the behind the scenes look but I'll always remember Dubas for 2 things. Staying with Mikheyev in Jersey and him running down the stairs on the phone when Tavares got hurt. The guy cares for people. The Leafs lost a great person.

I think this is part of why losing him sucked so much.  He's a nice guy and I really like the setup of our front office over this.  Contrast that to the team that gets Bedard this year (or our organization under Ballard) and it was just nice not having to worry about our front office doing something stupid.

When Fletcher had his melt-down over the Muskoka 5 and was disrespecting Mats it really ticked me off.  Dubas standing by our players through their playoff struggles mattered to me from a GM perspective.  I hope whoever replaces him can at least keep some of those elements in place.

Couldn't agree more. I really hated how they treated Mats at the end. Guy played his heart out for the Leafs and then because he wouldn't waive his no trade they didn't treat him so nice.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

I want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.

I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I want a GM with a short cap debt and a long........playoff bracket.

It's the only way for the Leafs to go the distance.

Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/yyzsportsmedia/status/1662193153196310529
From the guy that watches the watchmen: a fairly thorough summary of everything that was said and written

 

[dappleganger]

My opinion. Dubas was coming for the President of Hockey Ops job and Shanahan was like, I don't think so, that's my job. Simple as that.