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Leafs bring back Komarov (4 years, $2.95mil cap hit)

cabber24 said:
wnc096 said:
princedpw said:
On its own, I can live with this, but the Leaf cap mistakes add up.  Rather than this:

0.8 Gleason
3 Komarov
5.2 Clarkson
= 9 million

I'd prefer

8 million Statsny
1 million Carter Ashton

Sure, that makes Statsny massively, horrendously overpaid, but I assume we'd have to outbid the Blues.  I'd rather waste several million on new players at the top of the lineup than players at the bottom.

I'd also probably prefer to spend the cap space on Erhoff.  I'm not sure how much that will cost at the moment ... we will see.  Probably a lot.

Anyway, it definitely could have been worse!  Thank god for Florida!!

I think you are also assuming that Free agency is simply an auction.  I don't think there was any indication that Stastny even wanted to play in Toronto
I think it's a valid point, emphasizing the miss use of funds for a bunch of mediocre talent while not signing that big name... ever.

they do tend to miss out on the bigger fish...which I don't think is a bad thing.

Last year Clarkson was a big fish, and he bombed,

Brad richards the year before bombed

how could anyone forget chris drury and scott gomez when they were the big FA, and they crashed and burned

Come to think of it most of the time you sign a big name it never seems to work out.  The only recent ones in the last 10 years I can think of is Chara (which was a super home run), neidermayer, and maybe Hossa/Suter/Parise (although they signed 100 year contracts)
 
Strangelove said:
wnc096 said:
Strangelove said:
Komorov is basically D'Amigo but really expensive.

With Nonis it's been one long line of uninspiring (at best) to awful moves.  I guess Shanahan/Nonis's plan is to rebuild the mediocre team they had a couple years ago. terrific.

I think he is in a no win situation in terms of fan reaction.  Everyone on here was clamouring to get Komarov back, yet when he signs they are unhappy about the term and the dollars.  he was a UFA...and in those cases you have to pony up or he walks.  That's just the way it is

Had Nonis let him walk people would have been equally upset.

I haven't been here for a while, but if people were honestly clamoring to bring a mediocre sparkplug back then I would suggest their priorities were out of whack.

Eventually you have to stop signing bad players to 4+ year deals. There may be a point somewhere down the line when the Leafs realize this, but they haven't yet.

He's hardly a bad or mediocre player for what he does, I mean, have you noticed how much he was hated by opposing players and fans in other leagues? He also has some record of success, a Gagarin cup and an Olympic bronze. He's getting a lot of dough but I think he's worth it if he brings his super pestiness to the Leafs table, and he's only 27 years old.

He'll probably be looked at as a bit of a bargain, cap wise, in two years.
 
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lol.
 
Tigger said:
Strangelove said:
wnc096 said:
Strangelove said:
Komorov is basically D'Amigo but really expensive.

With Nonis it's been one long line of uninspiring (at best) to awful moves.  I guess Shanahan/Nonis's plan is to rebuild the mediocre team they had a couple years ago. terrific.

I think he is in a no win situation in terms of fan reaction.  Everyone on here was clamouring to get Komarov back, yet when he signs they are unhappy about the term and the dollars.  he was a UFA...and in those cases you have to pony up or he walks.  That's just the way it is

Had Nonis let him walk people would have been equally upset.

I haven't been here for a while, but if people were honestly clamoring to bring a mediocre sparkplug back then I would suggest their priorities were out of whack.

Eventually you have to stop signing bad players to 4+ year deals. There may be a point somewhere down the line when the Leafs realize this, but they haven't yet.

He's hardly a bad or mediocre player for what he does, I mean, have you noticed how much he was hated by opposing players and fans in other leagues? He also has some record of success, a Gagarin cup and an Olympic bronze. He's getting a lot of dough but I think he's worth it if he brings his super pestiness to the Leafs table, and he's only 27 years old.

He'll probably be looked at as a bit of a bargain, cap wise, in two years.

I'll just say that you remember him more fondly than I do. I remember him as a small, scrappy, one-dimensional player who probably shouldn't be a third line player on a good team. He's not someone they should have brought back at that price.

Also, I've heard that "he'll be a bargain in 3 years" line from Leaf fans in relation to a lot of our signings. Not once do I recall it being true (in fact, the opposite is usually the case).
 
Strangelove said:
I'll just say that you remember him more fondly than I do. I remember him as a small, scrappy, one-dimensional player who probably shouldn't be a third line player on a good team. He's not someone they should have brought back at that price.

Also, I've heard that "he'll be a bargain in 3 years" line from Leaf fans in relation to a lot of our signings. Not once do I recall it being true (in fact, the opposite is usually the case).

How did he make the Finnish national team if he's such an irrelevant player?  I mean its not as though he was on Latvia or Norway
 
Strangelove said:
I'll just say that you remember him more fondly than I do. I remember him as a small, scrappy, one-dimensional player who probably shouldn't be a third line player on a good team. He's not someone they should have brought back at that price.

Also, I've heard that "he'll be a bargain in 3 years" line from Leaf fans in relation to a lot of our signings. Not once do I recall it being true (in fact, the opposite is usually the case).

It's not just me remembering him fondly, yeah he played with some snarl for the Leafs but he has a pretty serious history of being the most hated player everywhere he's gone, it'd be nice to have a player like that again. My hope is that he turns out to be Bill Berg, Peter Zezel and Mark Osborne in one body...
 
I like Komarov but no way is he worth that kind of money and term! How can management pay him that kind of money for one season with the Leafs, but tell Kulemin to screw off after he has shown what he is capable of.
 
freer said:
I think it is about 500k too much.

Better to overpay Komarov by $500k than Bolland by $2m.

All in all, not a disastrous day, though I think management might've bumbled into this 'success.'
 
mr grieves said:
All in all, not a disastrous day, though I think management might've bumbled into this 'success.'

You have to think that everything didn't go their way today either. I'd like to know what we missed out on, but we rarely hear that stuff.
 
BrownRolo said:
I like Komarov but no way is he worth that kind of money and term! How can management pay him that kind of money for one season with the Leafs, but tell Kulemin to screw off after he has shown what he is capable of.

Has it actually been written somewhere that the Leafs told Kulemin to screw off? Perhaps Kulemin wants a change of scenery?
 
A little too much and a little too long for what he provided last time he was here, but, if he can find a little more of the offence he had in the KHL, this will probably turn out to be a pretty reasonable deal.
 
bustaheims said:
A little too much and a little too long for what he provided last time he was here, but, if he can find a little more of the offence he had in the KHL, this will probably turn out to be a pretty reasonable deal.

Maybe get Komarov/ Holland/ Clarkson to hit and cycle the puck and wear teams down. All three of them can pick corners I think also.
 
I think this signing is pretty bad. Komarov doesn't have the offensive ability to be worth the salary the Leafs paid him. It's like a mini-Clarkson move. An overpayment for someone with limited ability just because he's "tough to play against".
 

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