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They're not fans....Bender said:
Leafs @ Canadiens - May 29th, 7:30pm - CBC, Fan 590
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I think you'd have to consider it. I'd be looking at Marner. The problem is, with the flat cap, how many teams might be willing/able to take on that cap hit. And would the return be worth it.Gerald The Duck said:
I'll worry about that when we get there, but losing this series after being up 3-1 would have to lead to some tough questions.
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I could ask the same of you ? whats your inside information? What is objective is no points. Again.Chris said:
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Bender said:
Let's take a step back.
Leafs have played 2 good games, one pretty good game (all wins), one weird game where they were processing Tavares' injury (loss), 2 bad games where they came back in the 3rd and forced OT, and 1 bad OT period and 1 good OT period. Sure, they should win against Montreal, they are much the better team. But its the playoffs, they've lost 2 and now maybe 3 key guys. It's not all that shocking to be going 7. Good news is that Campbell has delivered for the most part.
That said, even if they win G7 somehow I am back to thinking that they still seem to lack the mental tenacity to overcome adversity.
BermudaBudsFan said:
Fair enough. I'm going by what I see, the changes I've noticed in him since the start of the series. As someone else mentioned, the Canadiens have done a good job checking that line but there appears to be more to it than that. I could be wrong. Whatever. If he's not producing for whatever reason, the Leafs ain't going anywhere in the playoffs. Gotta find a way to fight through tight checking and get some points.
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Chris said:
RedLeaf said:
Well, I think they'll lose game 7. Losing Muzzin (assuming he's out which seems reasonable) is huge. Their confidence has to be a bit shot. And no matter what the players or coaches say, these guys know the history, they (the core) know they've lost 4 straight first round series. All the pressure is on the Leafs now. Can they handle it?
Even if Leafs somehow manage to win game 7 (little confidence in that happening now) they are going nowhere with the way they are playing.
You have a rested Winnepeg team hungry and waiting meanwhile Leafs look like they have zero jump at this point. There is no killer instinct at all.
I dont know what they thought they were getting in Foligno, but I'm not seeing a lot out of him to show he is deserving of playing anywhere higher then a 3rd line role. And very limited physical play from him.
The style of game always changes in the playoffs and once again, this team never just seems to have the proper makeup to look comfortable trying to play playoff style hockey.
You have a rested Winnepeg team hungry and waiting meanwhile Leafs look like they have zero jump at this point. There is no killer instinct at all.
I dont know what they thought they were getting in Foligno, but I'm not seeing a lot out of him to show he is deserving of playing anywhere higher then a 3rd line role. And very limited physical play from him.
The style of game always changes in the playoffs and once again, this team never just seems to have the proper makeup to look comfortable trying to play playoff style hockey.
Lee-bo said:
Maybe that's where the anger comes from in this situation. There is nothing we as fans can do. We just sit and watch and hope. We look at all the stats and we think that based on the numbers that things should play out in the favor of the team that we have chosen to cheer for, and when that doesn't work out, there isn't anything that can be done about. Complaining about Matthews isn't going to change the outcome for game 7 or how many points he gets in that game.
Maybe it's this feeling of somehow the trust has been broken with us. We trust that the organization is going to do the right things to produce a team that we can cheer for proudly. So far they have talked a good game, but when the games matter the most, the Leafs fail to come through.
How many people have thought about the fact that Vegas, a team that only came into the League 4 years ago, has 5 playoff series wins. They have more playoff series wins than years of existence. They have been to a cup final one more time than the Leafs have since 1967.
I don't know. Maybe it's me. Maybe this happens because I cheer for this team and it's part of some celestial burden that I am supposed to bear that the hockey team that I cheer for should be considered a perennial laughing stock of a team. If that is the case, then I am incredibly sorry for putting you all through this.
I had high hopes for them this year. I thought they would battle through it, that they had learned all the lessons they needed to learn. The way it looks right now, this is just another joke of a playoff run.
Bender said:
I think a lot of those instances have been when we've shipped out young talent before really giving them a chance. We all know what Marner can do in the NHL. The question is, in the salary cap era (especially the flat cap) is the team better off with one Marner at $10+ million or maybe two $5 million players to spread out the dollars more effectively through the lineup. I think that's a question you'd at least have to consider. That doesn't mean you do anything.
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As a fan you invest a lot. Every so often you would like to see some on ice success. This particular iteration of the team is so confounding because it has the high end talent needed to win. When they lose it hurts. The way this team loses is excruciating. Not watching game 7 is self-preservation. I think deep down we all know what the result Monday will be. In a way, it?s caring about the team so much that will mean I probably won?t watch. This feels like the Bruins collapse all over again, but just in slow motion over the course of a few games.Chris said:
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dafan590 said:
Of course it's at home for once. Because we can't have fans there!