Leafs @ Canucks - Apr. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590

[Chris]

Kind of looked like he got hit above the knee (I'm just going from memory, haven't looked at the video recently). So it might just be a deep bruise, though of course even those can be serious injuries.

 

[Redleaf]

I feel like it's not good that we haven't heard about Hyman by now...

That might be reading a little too much into it. You could also say if it was something super serious and he was out long-term it'd be a pretty quick diagnosis. I guess the good news is he was apparently in good spirits after the game last night.

I'm fully expecting him to miss some time, but there's 4 weeks until playoffs still so hopefully it's not much longer than that.

Yeah. Good spirits, and more importantly optimistic after the last nights game...

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/hyman-was-very-optimistic-in-leafs-room-after-scary-knee-on-knee-hit-tavares-says%7E2183672

 

[Chris]

I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.

I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Foligno-Tavares-Robertson, that's what I'd experiment with if Hyman is going to miss games.

 

[Guilt Trip]

That might be reading a little too much into it. You could also say if it was something super serious and he was out long-term it'd be a pretty quick diagnosis. I guess the good news is he was apparently in good spirits after the game last night.

I'm fully expecting him to miss some time, but there's 4 weeks until playoffs still so hopefully it's not much longer than that.

Also, the fact that he was around the team and not going for further medical evaluation also feels like a good sign. If they felt it was more serious, I have to imagine they would have needed to send him to a hospital to get the right tests completed, etc.

They may have done that already.

 

[Kin]

Either way, like I said regarding Matthews the other day, I'm ok with them being cautious here. Give him a few days.

 

[herman]

I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.

I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Could be interesting to see if that trio could outwork a loaded up McDavid/Draisaitl line in a playoff series. But yeah more generally speaking it's better to split some of that up.

I think that'd be fun, but the issue of 71-91-11 is less a lack of finish and more a lack of transition play: Hyman would be the best carrier, Tavares likes to skate into the densest congregation of players on the ice. There is otherwise a significant positive alignment in their preference and capabilities in small-ice play. Once the puck gets into the zone and down low, it might just stay there until it's in the net. Getting it there will be the trick (dump and chase).

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I think that'd be fun, but the issue of 71-91-11 is less a lack of finish and more a lack of transition play: Hyman would be the best carrier, Tavares likes to skate into the densest congregation of players on the ice. There is otherwise a significant positive alignment in their preference and capabilities in small-ice play. Once the puck gets into the zone and down low, it might just stay there until it's in the net. Getting it there will be the trick (dump and chase).

It would absolutely be a dump and chase line, and while that might not be the most optimal zone entry for most lines when you have the teams top two forecheckers (maybe two of the leagues best overall) a lot of pucks would get retrieved.

 

[herman]

I think that'd be fun, but the issue of 71-91-11 is less a lack of finish and more a lack of transition play: Hyman would be the best carrier, Tavares likes to skate into the densest congregation of players on the ice. There is otherwise a significant positive alignment in their preference and capabilities in small-ice play. Once the puck gets into the zone and down low, it might just stay there until it's in the net. Getting it there will be the trick (dump and chase).

It would absolutely be a dump and chase line, and while that might not be the most optimal zone entry for most lines when you have the teams top two forecheckers (maybe two of the leagues best overall) a lot of pucks would get retrieved.

Nothing wrong with have attacking lines with completely different styles (same thing with PP). Play predictably to execute better for your teammates, but set it up in a way that makes it harder for the defense to figure you out.

I kind of want a stretch pass line (15) and a dump line (91) and a hold it for openings line (34).

 

[Frank E]

I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.

I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Foligno-Tavares-Robertson, that's what I'd experiment with if Hyman is going to miss games.

I'm hopeful on Robertson for the future, but I don't think he's nearly effective enough to be given those minutes right now.

 

[Chris]

I was hoping for these lines to start the playoffs:

Nylander - Matthews - Marner
Foligno - Tavares - Hyman

I hope Hyman is ok.

I don't think there's enough finish on the Tavares line.

Foligno-Tavares-Robertson, that's what I'd experiment with if Hyman is going to miss games.

I'm hopeful on Robertson for the future, but I don't think he's nearly effective enough to be given those minutes right now.

Maybe not, but that's why I propose trying it now to see if it might work. If he's on a line with two grinder types (Tavares and Foligno) it might open up room for him to make good use of his skillset.

 

[Britishbulldog]

Maybe not, but that's why I propose trying it now to see if it might work. If he's on a line with two grinder types (Tavares and Foligno) it might open up room for him to make good use of his skillset.

When does/did Robertson burn the slide year off his contract?  10 games this year?

 

[Britishbulldog]

Maybe not, but that's why I propose trying it now to see if it might work. If he's on a line with two grinder types (Tavares and Foligno) it might open up room for him to make good use of his skillset.

When does/did Robertson burn the slide year off his contract?  10 games this year?

NVM, I just found that it has been pro-rated this year to 7 games and Robertson has played in 5 already meaning he has 2 left

 

[bustaheims]

That might be reading a little too much into it. You could also say if it was something super serious and he was out long-term it'd be a pretty quick diagnosis. I guess the good news is he was apparently in good spirits after the game last night.

I'm fully expecting him to miss some time, but there's 4 weeks until playoffs still so hopefully it's not much longer than that.

Also, the fact that he was around the team and not going for further medical evaluation also feels like a good sign. If they felt it was more serious, I have to imagine they would have needed to send him to a hospital to get the right tests completed, etc.

They may have done that already.

I doubt they would have had time to get him to the hospital, run all the tests they needed to, and get him back to the team soon enough for them to be able to relay those sentiments to media virtually immediately after the game ended - if they even would have sent him back to the arena. It's more likely that he would have been sent straight back to the hotel afterwards.

 

[herman]

I think that'd be fun, but the issue of 71-91-11 is less a lack of finish and more a lack of transition play: Hyman would be the best carrier, Tavares likes to skate into the densest congregation of players on the ice. There is otherwise a significant positive alignment in their preference and capabilities in small-ice play. Once the puck gets into the zone and down low, it might just stay there until it's in the net. Getting it there will be the trick (dump and chase).

It would absolutely be a dump and chase line, and while that might not be the most optimal zone entry for most lines when you have the teams top two forecheckers (maybe two of the leagues best overall) a lot of pucks would get retrieved.

Nothing wrong with have attacking lines with completely different styles (same thing with PP). Play predictably to execute better for your teammates, but set it up in a way that makes it harder for the defense to figure you out.

I kind of want a stretch pass line (15) and a dump line (91) and a hold it for openings line (34).

https://twitter.com/JhanHky/status/1384227459202052103
well well well

 

[Chris]

Maybe not, but that's why I propose trying it now to see if it might work. If he's on a line with two grinder types (Tavares and Foligno) it might open up room for him to make good use of his skillset.

When does/did Robertson burn the slide year off his contract?  10 games this year?

NVM, I just found that it has been pro-rated this year to 7 games and Robertson has played in 5 already meaning he has 2 left

Does that mean he is allowed to play 7 and when he plays in that 8th game, he burns the year?

I  know all this stuff matters to some degree, but if the Leafs consider this a "go for it" year, I don't think they can worry too much about that. If Robertson makes the team better (which I think is yet to be determined), they should just play him in a meaningful role. Not 5 minutes a night on the 4th line.

 

[Kin]

I think the Marner/Matthews/Nylander extensions probably taught us that caring about burning a year off of an ELC is probably secondary to just doing what's right for the team and player.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Really hope the league takes into consideration that Edler was tired at the end of that shift and goes easy on him.

This was mostly a joke... but they literally did... "instead fatigued after a long shift Edler only adjusts his right leg..."

https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1384236287540928521

 

[dappleganger]

Really hope the league takes into consideration that Edler was tired at the end of that shift and goes easy on him.

This was mostly a joke... but they literally did... "instead fatigued after a long shift Edler only adjusts his right leg..."

https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1384236287540928521

I was once acquitted of murder because I only got 4 hours of sleep the night before.

These things matter.

 

[Redleaf]

Ok. Now the suspension was announced can we get to the injury update already?

 

[bustaheims]

This was mostly a joke... but they literally did... "instead fatigued after a long shift Edler only adjusts his right leg..."

He's also not technically a repeat offender by the NHL's definition, despite 2 previous NHL suspensions (both in 2013, both for bad hits but not knee-on-knee) and a suspension at the 2014 Olympics (this time, for a knee-on-knee hit).