Leafs @ Capitals - Oct. 16th, 7:00pm - SN1, TSN 1050

[lc9]

Teams that made the playoffs last year: 1-3 (1 win is against CBJ)
Teams that missed the playoffs last year: 3-0-1

That is what this team is.  They will win against the bad teams most night and then struggle to beat the good teams.  All the skill in the world, no plan to use it. 

 

[Guilt Trip]

It's going to take time for the team to gel. They've done a major tweaking job here so let's not forget that. It will come together or Babs will be gone.

 

[Bender]

It's going to take time for the team to gel. They've done a major tweaking job here so let's not forget that. It will come together or Babs will be gone.

They've been mostly a .500 team since last January.

 

[Guilt Trip]

That has nothing to do with this team. They've just turned over the  roster this season. 4 pretty much new lines, 3 new D partners. It will take time.

 

[herman]

Were the penalties called against us fair calls?

Because I?m seeing the Caps had 7 and a half minutes on the powerplay while the Leafs had 2 min in the third, and the score was only +1 for them. A team sporting Wilson, Gudas, and Ovechkin only made 1 infraction eh

*Aluminum foil hat on*
Refs really didn?t like that Muzzin flop the game before.

 

[Bender]

Were the penalties called against us fair calls?

Because I?m seeing the Caps had 7 and a half minutes on the powerplay while the Leafs had 2 min in the third, and the score was only +1 for them. A team sporting Wilson, Gudas, and Ovechkin only made 1 infraction eh

*Aluminum foil hat on*
Refs really didn?t like that Muzzin flop the game before.

I thought they were mostly fair calls, but I counted at least 3 potential PPs for the Leafs.

 

[herman]

I thought they were mostly fair calls, but I counted at least 3 potential PPs for the Leafs.

Thanks, Bender.
B2B + mediocre backup + a 5PP differential against a top powerplay outfit, and that?s all she wrote. I like that the Leafs didn?t fold like they might have in previous years.

 

[WAYNEINIONA]

Does Babcock know he is allowed to call a time out?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Nice to see Kapanen have a bounce back game. Maybe playing proper positions and roles matter after all.

 

[ZBBM]

In all honesty I think the noncalls on the WSH side were legit.  I didn't see any obvious missed calls.  We got away with one high stick, in fact.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Yeah might as well sit Matthews and marner the final 2 minutes.

Babcock is brilliant.

He didn't sit anyone. There was 2:00 left in the game. He knows that you can't put out your top two players for the last 2 minutes. He expected a 45 second shift from the first group and then a chance to change when Washington got control and dumped it.
It didn't happen. The Leafs controlled the puck for 1:40 seconds. The line change wasn't possible without purposely giving up control of the puck. Oh well.

I sometimes wonder if some of you have ever played or coached hockey before. From about the 5 minute mark remaining in the 3rd period(especially in a close one) the coach is trying  to time his line changes so that his best players are on for the last minute. It's a game. Plans go awry. It works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't.

 

[Zee]

In all honesty I think the noncalls on the WSH side were legit.  I didn't see any obvious missed calls.  We got away with one high stick, in fact.

There's enough that happens in a hockey game that you should never see a 5-1 disparity in penalty calls.  Either they call everything, or they let everything go.  The only reason the Leafs got away with that Mikheyev high stick was the fact they called too many consecutive penalties on the Leafs and the refs realized they tilted the game in the Caps favour.  By that point it was too late anyway.

 

[herman]

He didn't sit anyone. There was 2:00 left in the game. He knows that you can't put out your top two players for the last 2 minutes. He expected a 45 second shift from the first group and then a chance to change when Washington got control and dumped it.
It didn't happen. The Leafs controlled the puck for 1:40 seconds. The line change wasn't possible without purposely giving up control of the puck. Oh well.

I sometimes wonder if some of you have ever played or coached hockey before. From about the 5 minute mark remaining in the 3rd period(especially in a close one) the coach is trying  to time his line changes so that his best players are on for the last minute. It's a game. Plans go awry. It works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't.

Exactly.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I thought they were mostly fair calls, but I counted at least 3 potential PPs for the Leafs.

Thanks, Bender.
B2B + mediocre backup + a 5PP differential against a top powerplay outfit, and that?s all she wrote. I like that the Leafs didn?t fold like they might have in previous years.

The Leafs stopped playing for a good portion of the 2nd period. That was the difference. The Leafs were the better team in the 1st and for most of the 3rd.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

He didn't sit anyone. There was 2:00 left in the game. He knows that you can't put out your top two players for the last 2 minutes. He expected a 45 second shift from the first group and then a chance to change when Washington got control and dumped it.
It didn't happen. The Leafs controlled the puck for 1:40 seconds. The line change wasn't possible without purposely giving up control of the puck. Oh well.

I sometimes wonder if some of you have ever played or coached hockey before. From about the 5 minute mark remaining in the 3rd period(especially in a close one) the coach is trying  to time his line changes so that his best players are on for the last minute. It's a game. Plans go awry. It works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't.

Exactly.

Also, he didn't "not call a timeout" on purpose. Again, there was 2 minutes left. If he would of called his timeout while they took a draw at center ice after scoring a goal I would of questioned his decision making way more. Nothing like sucking the momentum out of a team. And what do you say for a face off at center? So yeah, I want you to draw it back to your defenceman, then I want you to get the puck deep with control, Then I want you to score...Well no sh*t sherlock.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Just watched the final shift from last nights game. Face-off was at 2:33 and Babock had Tavares-Kerfoot-Marner-Rielly-Barrie out. Washington won the draw and kept the puck in Toronto's end for about 30 seconds. About 30 seconds into the shift the Leafs finally came up the ice with possession and pulled their goalie. At this point, Hutchinson came off for Kapanen and Marner came off for Nylander. Kerfoot, Tavares, Rielly, and Barrie all stayed on. This is where I would argue the Leafs could have rather easily put Matthews on the ice. Either as the sub for Hutch instead of Kapanen, or by pulling Kerfoot off (he had just skated around the defensive end for 30 seconds) as the Leafs came up the ice (he literally skated right by the bench).

They were going for it. They pulled the goalie. They had Tavares/Rielly/Barrie out there and those 3 were likely playing as long as they could. I don't really see the reason to conserve Matthews at that point.

 

[L K]

Just watched the final shift from last nights game. Face-off was at 2:33 and Babock had Tavares-Kerfoot-Marner-Rielly-Barrie out. Washington won the draw and kept the puck in Toronto's end for about 30 seconds. About 30 seconds into the shift the Leafs finally came up the ice with possession and pulled their goalie. At this point, Hutchinson came off for Kapanen and Marner came off for Nylander. Kerfoot, Tavares, Rielly, and Barrie all stayed on. This is where I would argue the Leafs could have rather easily put Matthews on the ice. Either as the sub for Hutch instead of Kapanen, or by pulling Kerfoot off (he had just skated around the defensive end for 30 seconds) as the Leafs came up the ice (he literally skated right by the bench).

They were going for it. They pulled the goalie. They had Tavares/Rielly/Barrie out there and those 3 were likely playing as long as they could. I don't really see the reason to conserve Matthews at that point.

Agree with this.  Also I think there was an opportunity for them to try and get guys on the ice with a rolling change while the Leafs passed the puck around the periphery and made no shot attempts.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Agree with this.  Also I think there was an opportunity for them to try and get guys on the ice with a rolling change while the Leafs passed the puck around the periphery and made no shot attempts.

Kerfoot also had a chance to do this later in the shift when Rielly jumped up and he dropped back to the point. If it was well-communicated yeah they definitely could have made the change then too. These are NHLers we're talking about, changing on the fly even when you're in possession of the puck offensively is common.

 

[Chris]

Agree with this.  Also I think there was an opportunity for them to try and get guys on the ice with a rolling change while the Leafs passed the puck around the periphery and made no shot attempts.

Kerfoot also had a chance to do this later in the shift when Rielly jumped up and he dropped back to the point. If it was well-communicated yeah they definitely could have made the change then too. These are NHLers we're talking about, changing on the fly even when you're in possession of the puck offensively is common.

That was such a frustrating sequence to watch (a lot like many of their PP's, actually). Kept thinking "if they only had a shooter out there (Matthews)." Yeah, they had Tavares but, you know, broken finger...

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Just watched the final shift from last nights game. Face-off was at 2:33 and Babock had Tavares-Kerfoot-Marner-Rielly-Barrie out. Washington won the draw and kept the puck in Toronto's end for about 30 seconds. About 30 seconds into the shift the Leafs finally came up the ice with possession and pulled their goalie. At this point, Hutchinson came off for Kapanen and Marner came off for Nylander. Kerfoot, Tavares, Rielly, and Barrie all stayed on. This is where I would argue the Leafs could have rather easily put Matthews on the ice. Either as the sub for Hutch instead of Kapanen, or by pulling Kerfoot off (he had just skated around the defensive end for 30 seconds) as the Leafs came up the ice (he literally skated right by the bench).

They were going for it. They pulled the goalie. They had Tavares/Rielly/Barrie out there and those 3 were likely playing as long as they could. I don't really see the reason to conserve Matthews at that point.

Agree with this.  Also I think there was an opportunity for them to try and get guys on the ice with a rolling change while the Leafs passed the puck around the periphery and made no shot attempts.

But is that on Babcock or the clowns on the ice?