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Mayor Rob Ford

Nik the Trik said:
TML fan said:
If doing the right thing is something you care about which, as I said, he obviously doesn't.

Sure, although I suppose I was more making the point that "doing the right thing" isn't the only reason to resign. If someone has a serious drug problem, and regardless of how occasionally you use it crack seems to qualify, and a very high-stress job then resigning is as much in one's self-interest as anything.

Yeah, but we are talking about Rob Ford, not a generally sane and rational person.
 
Speaking as someone who no longer lives in Toronto: (A) I feel pretty sorry for him as a human being.  Without some big time help, he is on his way to suicide, a drug overdose and/or in-and-out of jail for the rest of is life.  (B) Is there no mechanism in Toronto government to remove a fiasco like this from government?  Obviously, they need an emergency session to do so.
 
TML fan said:
Yeah, but we are talking about Rob Ford, not a generally sane and rational person.

Fair enough. I suppose I meant that these are reasons to resign in a general sense, whether or not Ford specifically avails himself of them.
 
Nik the Trik said:
louisstamos said:
A guy named "Ian," who sounds an awful lot like Rob Ford, called into Bill Carroll's show yesterday:

http://soundcloud.com/am640/carroll-is-this-rob-ford-oct

Well, at least he didn't go with Guy Incognito.

Mayor? Who is mayor?
 
princedpw said:
Speaking as someone who no longer lives in Toronto: (A) I feel pretty sorry for him as a human being.  Without some big time help, he is on his way to suicide, a drug overdose and/or in-and-out of jail for the rest of is life.  (B) Is there no mechanism in Toronto government to remove a fiasco like this from government?  Obviously, they need an emergency session to do so.

Yeah, I mean you cand motion for a vote of non-confidence in Parliament. I wonder if the same mechanism exists in the municipal level in some form.
 
princedpw said:
...(A) I feel pretty sorry for him as a human being.  Without some big time help, he is on his way to suicide, a drug overdose and/or in-and-out of jail for the rest of is life... 

That is the sad side that always is a possibility with a situation like this.
 
Nik the Trik said:
TML fan said:
If doing the right thing is something you care about which, as I said, he obviously doesn't.

Sure, although I suppose I was more making the point that "doing the right thing" isn't the only reason to resign. If someone has a serious drug problem, and regardless of how occasionally you use it crack seems to qualify, and a very high-stress job then resigning is as much in one's self-interest as anything.

But how would he support his habit then? How is that self-serving? huh?
 
Bender said:
princedpw said:
Speaking as someone who no longer lives in Toronto: (A) I feel pretty sorry for him as a human being.  Without some big time help, he is on his way to suicide, a drug overdose and/or in-and-out of jail for the rest of is life.  (B) Is there no mechanism in Toronto government to remove a fiasco like this from government?  Obviously, they need an emergency session to do so.

Yeah, I mean you cand motion for a vote of non-confidence in Parliament. I wonder if the same mechanism exists in the municipal level in some form.

Nope, they can't remove him, even if he gets charged.  If he ends up going to prison, then he's out, but by the time that would happen, the next election would have already occurred.
 
What if everyone just ignored him? Didn't go to meetings he called. Met without him etc? What if his whole staff pretended he just didn't exist. Yeah, that...

Ford: Stacy, can you come see me please?
<crickets>
Ford: Stacy?
<crickets>
Ford: Get your ass in here or you're fired.
<crickets>
Ford: Stacy, you're fired... Get out.
<crickets>
Ford: Security, please remove Stacy from the premisses.
<crickets>
Ford: * loses it *
Security: Stacy, what seems to be the problem here?
Stacy: Other than this crack-head throwing a tantrum? Nothing, Ralph.
Security (Ralph): Okay Stacy, carry on... Let me know if you need anything else.

<Ford thunders to the ground holding his chest> 

Apologies - slow period at work.  8) 

   
 
Ford should be out of office - not just because he's obviously broken the law, or because he can no longer be trusted to do his job, but mostly because he's obviously dealing with a serious cocaine addiction (and what I'm prepared to assume is a battery of other health problems) and needs and deserves a lot of professional help.  Nobody can, or should, serve as Mayor of anywhere in that condition.
 
My 'union' isn't considered a 'union' in Toronto.  The company I just quit did work right across Canada, headquarters in Mississauga.  But the don't do work in Toronto because their workers aren't 'unionized'.  Toronto is a cesspool of corruption.
 
Dr. Bobby Leafer said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
I haven't listed to AM640 for years, but is this all still just left-wing conspiracy nonsense to them?

No. I don't think there's conspiracy stuff going on. Innocent until proven guilty of course but it looks like there's some evidence of some pretty shaddy dealings on the mayor's part. I think right or wrong, this probably is the last nail in the coffin for him - as it should be.

No, I know all that.  I was just wondering aloud whether 640 was just burying its collective head in the sand and imagining that this is all just invention by those nasty liberal types.
 
The biggest mistake Rob Ford ever made was becoming Mayor of North America's fourth largest city.  Before he ever ran for the mayorship. Ford was a councillor with a reputation for helping not only his constituents, but also anyone who had a problem that was difficult to resolve.  Many people attest that Ford got the job done and was dependable.  Ford often described himself as an 'an old-fashioned' politician who works for the people.  Fine and very well.

But...since he became Mayor, it's been one scandal or problem after another, with seemingly no end in sight, culminating to this so-called crack cocaine video/story as we've all come to know it.

Perhaps the video doesn't show him smoking crack, perhaps it was this just once, it shows proof/evidence or it doesn't, whatever, but to be in the companionship of a known extortionist/criminal, plus to be associated with gang leaders and/or the criminal element is not a normal situation, for anyone let alone a Mayor of a major city.

Yes, there are people in prominent positions in our society (and subsequently in our city and/or cities) that smoke dope and buy the stuff, too.  Of course, but they're smart obviously to not be so open about it.  Ford by comparison has been up to know like an 'open book'.

As a proud Torontonian, our Mayor's antics have been quite frankly an embarrassment.  If he has a problem (his weight issues as well), please get help...before it's too late.

The jokes are on Toronto...imagine a saying such as "Toronto's Mayor needs drugs in order to make decisions!."

Egads!  Say it ain't so, Mr. Mayor!!
 
louisstamos said:
A guy named "Ian," who sounds an awful lot like Rob Ford, called into Bill Carroll's show yesterday:

http://soundcloud.com/am640/carroll-is-this-rob-ford-oct

I have zero doubt that's Ford.  And I believe there's no stronger evidence that he's using crack than the fact that he thought it was a good idea to make that call.
 
Bender said:
Nik the Trik said:
moon111 said:
Toronto is a cesspool of corruption.

I'm pretty sure the line is "A wretched hive of scum and villainy".

We would be happier if you said peepee soaked heck hole.

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Heroic Shrimp said:
louisstamos said:
A guy named "Ian," who sounds an awful lot like Rob Ford, called into Bill Carroll's show yesterday:

http://soundcloud.com/am640/carroll-is-this-rob-ford-oct

I have zero doubt that's Ford.  And I believe there's no stronger evidence that he's using crack than the fact that he thought it was a good idea to make that call.

I'm positive that's him, too.  And I would wager an embarrassing sum of money that he was high at the time.
 
Stickytape said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
louisstamos said:
A guy named "Ian," who sounds an awful lot like Rob Ford, called into Bill Carroll's show yesterday:

http://soundcloud.com/am640/carroll-is-this-rob-ford-oct

I have zero doubt that's Ford.  And I believe there's no stronger evidence that he's using crack than the fact that he thought it was a good idea to make that call.

I'm positive that's him, too.  And I would wager an embarrassing sum of money that he was high at the time.

The only thing that could have made his call funnier was if when Carroll called him out and he hung up, his departure had been accompanied by Homer Simpsonesque running footstomps to a car squealing away.
 

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