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Media Thread

Nik the Trik said:
Hey gang, have you watched Sportsnet's reasonably competent NHL coverage and thought to yourself "I think they probably would make a good burger", well, do I have the restaurant who'll charge you eight bucks for a pint of Bud Light for you!

http://www.sportsnetgrill.ca/

Admittedly I don't eat in Toronto very often but those prices seem nuts. $26 for a chicken caesar salad?! An $18 grilled cheese!?

edit: actually, a $27 plate of nachos is my favourite, only because guac is an extra $11! It's a share plate so I'd imagine it's an ok size but still.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Admittedly I don't eat in Toronto very often but those prices seem nuts. $26 for a chicken caesar salad?! An $18 grilled cheese!?

edit: actually, a $27 plate of nachos is my favourite, only because guac is an extra $11! It's a share plate so I'd imagine it's an ok size but still.

Yeah, those are pretty sketchy even by the grossly overpriced standards of eating in that part of town. It's pricier in parts than Real Sports.

Which would be one thing if it were, you know, good.
 
The $18 grilled cheese blows my mind. So does the $17 chili dog, and the $21 po' boy - which seems to completely go against the reason the po boys exists in the first place.
 
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I think my favourite thing might be the wine list having Wayne Gretzky's, Mike Weir's and Bob McCown's vineyards represented. Clearly making choices in service of the food.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik the Trik said:
Hey gang, have you watched Sportsnet's reasonably competent NHL coverage and thought to yourself "I think they probably would make a good burger", well, do I have the restaurant who'll charge you eight bucks for a pint of Bud Light for you!

http://www.sportsnetgrill.ca/

Admittedly I don't eat in Toronto very often but those prices seem nuts. $26 for a chicken caesar salad?! An $18 grilled cheese!?

edit: actually, a $27 plate of nachos is my favourite, only because guac is an extra $11! It's a share plate so I'd imagine it's an ok size but still.
I eat out here a lot. These prices are just obscene.
 
I'm just dying to know how much guacamole you get for $11. Please, if someone here goes, answer this question for me. I'll dedicate a GDT to you or something.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I'm just dying to know how much guacamole you get for $11. Please, if someone here goes, answer this question for me. I'll dedicate a GDT to you or something.

I?d volunteer but I think I?d need to take out a second job to afford the glass of water
 
Guru Tugginmypuddah said:
Nothing is more insane than the prices at the ACC (ok fine Scotiabank Arena) in a private box.

You know, I go to about 1 game per year, and in a box, but I never have to pay for anything.

Now, I did get tickets for the Air Canada lounge a year or 2 ago, and I did pay for my meal...I had a $32 hamburger, and a $15 beer.

I had more than one beer.

That was a bananas bill, but I find Toronto very expensive to party in, in general.
 
hrundi99 said:
These are standard Sydney (AU) prices. Not cheap but nothing unusual.

I don't know if things have changed since my time there but as I recall tipping wasn't as customary in Australia as it is here. So those prices are going to be in addition to a 15-20% gratuity at least.

But in general, I agree. If this is a good bar then those prices are pretty standard for good bars in downtown Toronto. That said I have some pretty strong suspicions that in addition to being fairly expensive, this place is also going to be pretty generic.
 
This story sounds unbelievable but oh so sickeningly true.  According to reports, human trafficking is a "$99M industry".  Perhaps you're wondering what does this have to do with sporting events?  Everything, from PGA tournaments to World Cup to HOF inductions, etc., etc.

The Athletic Cleveland reporter Tom Reed unlocked the article below so that many can read the shocking underworld of human trafficking, be it female sex slaves or cheap labour.  Though the article specifically deals with the above in the US, it can pertain to anywhere in the world, at any moment, at any event.

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Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
I don't disagree here; at the same time, who is in charge of what you read and listen to?

I think that's a more complicated question than you think, especially now that there's massive overlap between people who are ostensibly the critical media and game coverage. Someone out there may not like a Damian Cox or Elliotte Friedman or whoever but if they're just consuming the games themselves or watching Sportsnet generally they're bound to hear from all manner of people that they may not personally hold in high regard. It's one of the many thorny issues in wrapping up rights-holders and analysis in one(or two) conglomerates.

But even in the pre-internet age I think that being a savvy media consumer in a local market meant paying attention to things even if they weren't necessarily in your wheel house. Reading Cox or Strachan might not have been your cup of tea but being a Leafs-focused columnist at one of the city's dailies was a big deal and their opinions informed and often created the discussion around the team. Besides, if you were reading the paper you may as well read the whole damn paper.

I realize that the modern trend is to be selective in the media you consume to the point that you only see/read/hear the people you like or who do their jobs the way you approve of but I think that sort of devalues the communal nature of being a sports fan.

I super agree with this and the above. Cherry and the like have had a huge influence on how the game is processed and played and enjoyed (how many people hate Corsi offhand and love fighting?). I'm glad there is a larger variety of voices now with the main(er)streaming of articulate fans who've made the jump into media prominence.

Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
Again, I don't disagree. Are we still talking about Hofford's hyperbole here, or more of a general zeitgeist thing?

I was making sort of a separate point about something I've seen a lot of since Shanahan took over that I don't really think we saw before.

Is it Shanahan related, or is it more Bell/Rogers owning the team related? I'm not saying there's a nefarious conspiracy, but it would make sense for a media conglomerate to curate their message about a business property. It definitely appeared to 'stabilize' around Shanahan.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
This story sounds unbelievable but oh so sickeningly true.  According to reports, human trafficking is a "$99M industry".  Perhaps you're wondering what does this have to do with sporting events?  Everything, from PGA tournaments to World Cup to HOF inductions, etc., etc.

The Olympics is a HUGE factor in this.

Another intersection of sports events and the real world, but in the opposite direction is an apparent decrease in crime during games.

https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/how-to-fight-crime-with-your-television

Their data set was rich, spanning the period from January of 2001 through December of 2013, a stretch in which they analyzed twelve Super Bowls, two hundred and four Bears games (a hundred and eighty-six on Sundays, eighteen on Monday nights), ninety-four N.B.A. Finals games, sixty-eight Bulls playoff games, seventy World Series games, and thirty-four Cubs and White Sox playoff games. The authors, Hannah Laqueur and Ryan Copus, examined Chicago crime reports by the half hour while those games were in progress and compared them to reports from the same time, day, and month when the teams weren?t playing.

The effects were hard to miss. On Monday nights when the Bears were playing, crime in Chicago was down thirteen per cent?property crimes by three per cent, violent crimes by eleven per cent, and drug crimes by nearly thirty per cent?compared to the same Monday-night time slot when the Bears were off. Crime was consistently lower, though to a smaller degree, during N.B.A. finals games, Bulls playoff games, and Cubs and White Sox playoff games, regardless of whether the games were played at home or away. The Super Bowl had the biggest impact. During the three-plus hours of the game, crime fell by an average of twenty-five per cent?property and violent crimes by roughly fifteen per cent and drug crimes by more than sixty per cent?which amounts to about sixty fewer crimes.

They also note an uptick in domestic violence after an upset home team loss.

A lot of people really don't know how to process their feelings. I think it's a safe bet all this largely applies to the male demographic.
 
herman said:
Is it Shanahan related, or is it more Bell/Rogers owning the team related? I'm not saying there's a nefarious conspiracy, but it would make sense for a media conglomerate to curate their message about a business property. It definitely appeared to 'stabilize' around Shanahan.

I don't really think it's either. I think that what happened was that certain things the new management team did, whether cynically or not, appealed to a lot of the new breed of media and there isn't anyone in the world who doesn't like being told they're pretty.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
This story sounds unbelievable but oh so sickeningly true.  According to reports, human trafficking is a "$99M industry".  Perhaps you're wondering what does this have to do with sporting events?  Everything, from PGA tournaments to World Cup to HOF inductions, etc., etc.

The Athletic Cleveland reporter Tom Reed unlocked the article below so that many can read the shocking underworld of human trafficking, be it female sex slaves or cheap labour.  Though the article specifically deals with the above in the US, it can pertain to anywhere in the world, at any moment, at any event.

[tweet]1025766586219679745[/tweet]
My wife, son and I went to the Phoenix Open a few years back.  This tournament draws far more spectators than any other golf event, over 100,000 + people on the course each day.  We were amazed at the amount of "working girls" walking around.  Wherever large amounts of men with cash and booze are, you are going to find a huge amount of sex trade workers. Unfortunately there is a huge dark underbelly to all of this.
Was very bizarre and we never went back to the event.
 

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