Nonis using depth to go shopping....
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maplesyrup
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Saint Nik said:
Not sure how that makes less sense or doesn't make sense at all but hey, whatever... Anyway, "highly?" Well, higher than you and yeah, I think I've made it clear a couple of times that I'd gamble on Penner for the remainder of his contract. It's not like it's a huge commitment and as much as I think Lombardi might still be a useful player (certainly not "dead weight" as you called him) I don't think trading him is going to leave a huge void in our roster.
The Red Polar Bear
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Sarge said:
Pass.
maplesyrup
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The Red Polar Bear said:
Yeah, I'm sure many would... He can skate though. I'm just hopeful for more "attitude" shall we say among our forward group.
maplesyrup
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Saint Nik said:
There is no question he can be a force in front of the net and therefore "tough." I also considered Sundin "tough" but he didn't go around beating anyone up either. Or, maybe you thought Sundin to be a soft player too or maybe you're somehow just trying to have some fun here. Either way, I'm not sure it advances the conversation along any further.
The Red Polar Bear
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Sarge said:
I think that problem stems from the lack of Armstrong and Brown in the lineup.
If we were to get Eager, would he be in your lineup if Armstrong and Brown were both in?
maplesyrup
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The Red Polar Bear said:
Maybe not but isn't it not looking so good for Brown's return? A lot of guys never fully recover from surgeries like that.
bustaheims
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Sarge said:
He can be, and yet, he generally isn't. He may be capable of being "tough" but, he is not, in actuality, "tough."
maplesyrup
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Madferret said:
I'd try it.. what the hell.. If it doesn't pan out? Nothing lost really. I really think he can be had for a song. :-\
Sarge said:
A "song" is a mid-to-low round draft pick, or a mid-level prospect. It's not a player who arguably has as bad if not a worse contract than the guy you're trading away. I like Lombardi, and even to this day I'd still make that Lebda trade, but he hasn't shown anything yet to prove he deserves $3.5mil for this season and next.
I'm assuming you think LA would be shopping Penner because of his cap hit and lack of performance, and not because he's a potential lockerroom cancer (not that I've heard anything to suggest that). In that case, which of these three options makes the most sense? A) Waiving Penner. B) Allowing Penner's contract to play out and expire which would give them an extra $4.5mil next summer to play with to sign a top-6 winger. C) Trade Penner for Lombardi, a player who isn't exactly an upgrade on Penner nor is he an organizational need. This frees up $750k this season but adds $3.5mil to the teams cap next season.
I know I don't exactly paint the 3rd option in the greatest light, but that's because it's really hard to.
bustaheims
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Sarge said:
For a song? Maybe. But, for dead weight? Not so much.
maplesyrup
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CarltonTheBear said:
"B" I suppose but I guess if you could get "futures" you do it... So "D." Penner for futures... Which from the Leafs side, I might do for a mid/late round draft pick or AHL player with not much upside.
bustaheims
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Sarge said:
Which the Leafs don't really have the cap space to do right now.
maplesyrup
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Busta Reims said:
No. I suppose we don't. Though as discussed earlier, they'll need a penalty killer and middle pairing defencman to potentially replace Stoll and Mitchell... I wonder if we could accommodate that but I'd want something much more than Penner obviously. Maybe a deal similar to the Lupul one where we took the risk (which more than paid off) on the player plus got an asset back (Gardiner.)