Official meeting place of the Kadri Cadre

[nutman]

Well now, I think were getting to the time when we go back and look at all them posts on trading Kadri, and how he wont be a  big star in the NHL, bla bla bla. I know a few of the guys on here who kept including him in trades.  ;D . games like last night make me smile at them guys, and there know it all attudes.

I'm enjoying my humble pie. It's always nice to see a player surprise everyone like this. I don't think anyone had him leading team scoring at the half way mark. I'd like to see him still leading the team at seasons end.

I cant wait for his linemate t return.

 

[Redleaf]

Well now, I think were getting to the time when we go back and look at all them posts on trading Kadri, and how he wont be a  big star in the NHL, bla bla bla. I know a few of the guys on here who kept including him in trades.  ;D . games like last night make me smile at them guys, and there know it all attudes.

I'm enjoying my humble pie. It's always nice to see a player surprise everyone like this. I don't think anyone had him leading team scoring at the half way mark. I'd like to see him still leading the team at seasons end.

I cant wait for his linemate t return.

I think it's more important to have Kessel's line mate return. Kadri's doing just fine right now.

 

[nutman]

Well now, I think were getting to the time when we go back and look at all them posts on trading Kadri, and how he wont be a  big star in the NHL, bla bla bla. I know a few of the guys on here who kept including him in trades.  ;D . games like last night make me smile at them guys, and there know it all attudes.

I'm enjoying my humble pie. It's always nice to see a player surprise everyone like this. I don't think anyone had him leading team scoring at the half way mark. I'd like to see him still leading the team at seasons end.

I cant wait for his linemate t return.

I think it's more important to have Kessel's line mate return. Kadri's doing just fine right now.

I am hoping we get a suprise and there both back monday. we have three tough games comming up.

 

[caver]

Well now, I think were getting to the time when we go back and look at all them posts on trading Kadri, and how he wont be a  big star in the NHL, bla bla bla. I know a few of the guys on here who kept including him in trades.  ;D . games like last night make me smile at them guys, and there know it all attudes.

I'm enjoying my humble pie. It's always nice to see a player surprise everyone like this. I don't think anyone had him leading team scoring at the half way mark. I'd like to see him still leading the team at seasons end.

I cant wait for his linemate t return.

I think it's more important to have Kessel's line mate return. Kadri's doing just fine right now.

Agreed. Things should only get better.

 

[jdh1]

Well now, I think were getting to the time when we go back and look at all them posts on trading Kadri, and how he wont be a  big star in the NHL, bla bla bla. I know a few of the guys on here who kept including him in trades.  ;D . games like last night make me smile at them guys, and there know it all attudes.

Yes...and how many times was he supposed to go to Vancouver for Luongo?

 

[Zee]

Don't look now but Kadri is 16th in league scoring.  Of note to that, of the top 16, he's got the least amount of ice time per game at 15:08.  Next closest is Voracek at 16:34 per game.  Most guys are 18-21 minutes.

 

[rdowdall]

Don't look now but Kadri is 16th in league scoring.  Of note to that, of the top 16, he's got the least amount of ice time per game at 15:08.  Next closest is Voracek at 16:34 per game.  Most guys are 18-21 minutes.

But as Nik pointed out, more ice time may not necessarily translate in to more points.  One of the things Kadri has going for him is that he does not have to play against the other teams shutdown players.  I am not saying that Kadri might not be able to handle it, but it might be best to just let him gain his confidence for now, and then slowly give him a little more responsibility.

 

[rdowdall]

Well now, I think were getting to the time when we go back and look at all them posts on trading Kadri, and how he wont be a  big star in the NHL, bla bla bla. I know a few of the guys on here who kept including him in trades.  ;D . games like last night make me smile at them guys, and there know it all attudes.

Yeah.  How dare people make crazy predictions.

 

[crazyperfectdevil]

i get why we might not want to start playing this guy a lot more then where he's at ...but am i completely crazy for thinking that the team might not benefit from him getting an occasional shift with kessel and JVR?  i understand bozak plays a part on that line ..winning faceoffs being the biggest part...so moving him at this point is premature ..but i don't see why he couldn't get some time on there..especially in games where they need a spark  (if this has taken place and i somehow missed it..i apologize)

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I could see it if it was the odd shift or two per game, but currently the system works. Teams are forced to play their top shutdown men against Kessel's line...Keeping Kadri seperate opens up a 2nd line of scoring(considering Grabbo's line hasn't been scoring though they're picking it up). If Grabo's line returns to be the 1b line that it was the last couple seasons, perhaps then you could see Kadri moved up to centre Kessel's line a tad more.

 

[crazyperfectdevil]

I could see it if it was the odd shift or two per game, but currently the system works. Teams are forced to play their top shutdown men against Kessel's line...Keeping Kadri seperate opens up a 2nd line of scoring(considering Grabbo's line hasn't been scoring though they're picking it up). If Grabo's line returns to be the 1b line that it was the last couple seasons, perhaps then you could see Kadri moved up to centre Kessel's line a tad more.

it seems unlikely that Grabo's line will do that though...and not because they've lost the ability but more how Carlyle has chosen to use them, in fact, maple leaf hotstove has a pretty interesting article up about that right now:http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2013/03/01/mikhail-grabovski-defensive-stalwart/

 

[mjmgrand]

I contest the accuracy of this list. There has to have been a Leaf hattie scored since that last one Sundin is listed on ...

What about the game against Calgary when he scored his 500th - was that not a hat-trick as well?

You contest its accuracy? I mean, I agree it appears to be out of date but it answers the question you asked, doesn't it?

Yes it does indeed answer my question Nik. Thanks for the sleuthing

 

[Bullfrog]

...http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2013/03/01/mikhail-grabovski-defensive-stalwart/

That he?s been able to tally 10 points (while receiving a modest 1:47 per game on the power play) is actually a testament to the indomitable skill Grabovski possesses.

iNDOMITABLE! I like it.

 

[L K]

Don't look now but Kadri is 16th in league scoring.  Of note to that, of the top 16, he's got the least amount of ice time per game at 15:08.  Next closest is Voracek at 16:34 per game.  Most guys are 18-21 minutes.

But as Nik pointed out, more ice time may not necessarily translate in to more points.  One of the things Kadri has going for him is that he does not have to play against the other teams shutdown players.  I am not saying that Kadri might not be able to handle it, but it might be best to just let him gain his confidence for now, and then slowly give him a little more responsibility.

No, it doesn't guarantee more points.  But simply arguing that he is producing with limited minutes so therefore we shouldn't give him more is just pure silliness.  There are ways to increase his ice-time without putting him in vulnerable/taxing situations. 

When the Leafs are down a goal or two, stick him on Kessel's line for a shift or two and see if something clicks.  Move him up to the 1st PP unit so he is guaranteed 1:00+ minute of time on the PP instead of getting on in the second half of a PP after the 1st unit wastes 1:20 of it.

I mean, the guy is averaging the 10th most PP-TOI/game (8th if you don't include Lupul/Gardiner's cups of tea).  Kadri leads the team with 4 PP goals.  He's tied for 3rd on the team with 5 PP points.  I don't think it would be too hard to find the guy another 1-2 minutes of TOI/game that wouldn't necessitate him playing a constant cycle game and wearing down his engine. 

It's not like Kadri ends up being a guy who stops producing in the 3rd period because he looks worn out either. 

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

No pressure:

 

[TML fan]

I actually believe this is why the Leafs have a hard time developing players, particularly 1st round picks.

That said, I think Kadri is one of the few who can actually handle the pressure.

 

[Bender]

I actually believe this is why the Leafs have a hard time developing players, particularly 1st round picks.

That said, I think Kadri is one of the few who can actually handle the pressure.

I kind of think its a bit crazy to think that the media pressure makes it hard for the Leafs to develop players. Im sure they tell their prospect beforehand to ignore what's written about them and focus on playing their game. Its not like this is anything new or that the organization doesn't know how to deal with it.

 

[TML fan]

I actually believe this is why the Leafs have a hard time developing players, particularly 1st round picks.

That said, I think Kadri is one of the few who can actually handle the pressure.

I kind of think its a bit crazy to think that the media pressure makes it hard for the Leafs to develop players. Im sure they tell their prospect beforehand to ignore what's written about them and focus on playing their game. Its not like this is anything new or that the organization doesn't know how to deal with it.

Just because the player is informed doesn't mean he can handle it.

 

[Rebel_1812]

...http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2013/03/01/mikhail-grabovski-defensive-stalwart/

That he?s been able to tally 10 points (while receiving a modest 1:47 per game on the power play) is actually a testament to the indomitable skill Grabovski possesses.

iNDOMITABLE! I like it.

yeah he is just like the snowman

 

[Bender]

I actually believe this is why the Leafs have a hard time developing players, particularly 1st round picks.

That said, I think Kadri is one of the few who can actually handle the pressure.

I kind of think its a bit crazy to think that the media pressure makes it hard for the Leafs to develop players. Im sure they tell their prospect beforehand to ignore what's written about them and focus on playing their game. Its not like this is anything new or that the organization doesn't know how to deal with it.

Just because the player is informed doesn't mean he can handle it.

And you think that thats the reason why in the majority of cases the Leafs couldn't develop first round talent?