Phaneuf to have disciplinary hearing (2 game suspension)

[Redleaf]

Prediction: 2 games

Me and Shanny are tight.

On one hand, this isn't very good news. On the other, it may cause Nonis to really see the value in Phaneuf (once he's out of the line-up) and either sign the guy soon, or find another D-man like him, or my preference?..BOTH.

I think they're quite sure of his value to the team.

Then why haven't they come to terms on a contract with him yet?

 

[Joe S.]

Prediction: 2 games

Me and Shanny are tight.

On one hand, this isn't very good news. On the other, it may cause Nonis to really see the value in Phaneuf (once he's out of the line-up) and either sign the guy soon, or find another D-man like him, or my preference?..BOTH.

I think they're quite sure of his value to the team.

Then why haven't they come to terms on a contract with him yet?

It's really that black and white to you?

 

[Redleaf]

Prediction: 2 games

Me and Shanny are tight.

On one hand, this isn't very good news. On the other, it may cause Nonis to really see the value in Phaneuf (once he's out of the line-up) and either sign the guy soon, or find another D-man like him, or my preference?..BOTH.

I think they're quite sure of his value to the team.

Then why haven't they come to terms on a contract with him yet?

It's really that black and white to you?

Its a dark grey.

 

[Bullfrog]

Then why haven't they come to terms on a contract with him yet?

Because contract negotiations with the guy who'll be the 2nd highest paid player on the team and who's still under contract for another six and a half months are complex with a lot of back-and-forth. They're not under the gun here either.

That aside, who knows if they haven't come to terms? Maybe Phaneuf wants to field offers from other teams?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Then why haven't they come to terms on a contract with him yet?

Because contract negotiations with the guy who'll be the 2nd highest paid player on the team and who's still under contract for another six and a half months are complex with a lot of back-and-forth. They're not under the gun here either.

That aside, who knows if they haven't come to terms? Maybe Phaneuf wants to field offers from other teams?

The fact that the NHL just figured out what the cap would be next season yesterday probably plays a role too.

 

[Redleaf]

Then why haven't they come to terms on a contract with him yet?

Because contract negotiations with the guy who'll be the 2nd highest paid player on the team and who's still under contract for another six and a half months are complex with a lot of back-and-forth. They're not under the gun here either.

That aside, who knows if they haven't come to terms? Maybe Phaneuf wants to field offers from other teams?

Fair enough. My point was that this suspension may open up their eyes (and their pocket books) a bit when it comes to the negotiations.

 

[Deebo]

Seidenberg elbow to D'Amigo's head.. nothing.  This hit: two games.

Bullshorts.

The penalty assessed to Seidenberg was Illegal check to the head too.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

3 games minimum. If I was handing out the suspension Phaneuf would be getting 5. That could of killed the guy.

Agreed, if that player fell awkwardly into the boards, it could have resulted in paralysis, but that could be said for a lot of other hits.  The issue I have is if a player is near the boards, he should expect to get hit and should therefore try to protect himself or prepare for a possible hit.  It seems too many players today are 2 to 3 feet from the boards while facing the boards while trying to protect the puck whereas back in the day the players were completely against the boards and facing the boards while trying to protect the puck which if hit from behind usually resulted in no injury or a less serious injury.  It is as if players today are 'goating' other players to hit them from behind.

that's like saying a woman that walks alone at night should expect to get raped. Yes that's extreme but blaming the victim is tough.

Players attempt to protect the puck to protect the puck. They're not saying "break my neck, I dare ya!"

 

[Corn Flake]

Is this suspension consistent with other checks from behind this year, by guys with no previous (or recent) history of suspensions?

If it is then fine. If it varies then I have a problem (along with my Seidenberg problem)

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Well, based on practice today, it looks like Phaneuf's suspension means Fraser gets back into the lineup, while Rielly . . . does not.

Good thing we kept him up this year...

The Leafs have had 18 games this season where Fraser was healthy.

In those 18 games Fraser played 15 of them and was a healthy scratch in 3 of them.

Rielly played 9 of those 18 games and was a healthy scratch in the other 9.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Is this suspension consistent with other checks from behind this year, by guys with no previous (or recent) history of suspensions?

If it is then fine. If it varies then I have a problem (along with my Seidenberg problem)

Like Potvin said Ashton got 2 games for a similar play. But the problem is you can probably find more instances where a boarding call like that didn't get a sniff from the DOPS.

 

[AvroArrow]

Seidenberg elbow to D'Amigo's head.. nothing.  This hit: two games.

Bullshorts.

The penalty assessed to Seidenberg was Illegal check to the head too.

Anyone have a link to a video of this?  I must've missed this.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I personally think that Phaneuf's check was more violent then Ashton's.

I agree that some go uncalled and I also agree that Seidenberg deserved something. That doesn't remove Phaneuf's guilt though.

 

[bustaheims]

In those 18 games Fraser played 15 of them and was a healthy scratch in 3 of them.

He's actually only been a healthy scratch once. The other two games he missed were the result of a minor injury he suffered in the team's first game against Buffalo. He's really only been healthy for 16. He's just been off the IR for 18.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

In those 18 games Fraser played 15 of them and was a healthy scratch in 3 of them.

He's actually only been a healthy scratch once. The other two games he missed were the result of a minor injury he suffered in the team's first game against Buffalo. He's really only been healthy for 16. He's just been off the IR for 18.

Thanks, forgot about that. So that means Rielly has played in less than half the games where we've had a healthy defence.

 

[ZBBM]

In those 18 games Fraser played 15 of them and was a healthy scratch in 3 of them.

He's actually only been a healthy scratch once. The other two games he missed were the result of a minor injury he suffered in the team's first game against Buffalo. He's really only been healthy for 16. He's just been off the IR for 18.

Thanks, forgot about that. So that means Rielly has played in less than half the games where we've had a healthy defence.

I think that's nuts.  He is the future of the D and he's not going to learn from sitting many games in the skybox.  I was ambivalent about keeping him up at all, but once they did, they need to play him more often than not.

 

[freer]

Is this suspension consistent with other checks from behind this year, by guys with no previous (or recent) history of suspensions?

If it is then fine. If it varies then I have a problem (along with my Seidenberg problem)

Like Potvin said Ashton got 2 games for a similar play. But the problem is you can probably find more instances where a boarding call like that didn't get a sniff from the DOPS.

Did Fisher get anything for his hit on Franson?

 

[hockeyfan1]

I have no issue with the suspension - but for some reason this came to mind - no suspension. I know, different era, this isn't comparable, but if there's one thing the NHL is consistent with is it's inconsistency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Z6T3x770U

That hit was pretty blatant.  Bet if it had been today, Roberts would have gotten suspended somehow.

 

[Hampreacher]

If his name is Chara he gets nothing. If you watch the video one thing that stands out is Phaneufmakes contact after turning away as to avoid contact. Miller had his head down and changed direction.  If the Neil and Thornton incidents had not happened game before would Phaneuf even get a hearing. What about the hit during the Bruins Canadiens game thursday. Was it not just as violent. Julien knows his guy is going to be suspended so he is playing the sympathy card with thr league

 

[Kin]

If his name is Chara he gets nothing. If you watch the video one thing that stands out is Phaneufmakes contact after turning away as to avoid contact. Miller had his head down and changed direction. 

Yeah, that's just not true. Miller makes no turn whatsoever and Phaneuf hits him right in the numbers into the boards. That was an easy and, should be, automatic suspension.